Remove kill boards from RoR website

[SuperStar]

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This topic is is a core problem and in my opinion heavily connected to the health of the server and its population. It's legit to discuss the effects of the leaderboard. There are good players, no doubt and there are players who achieve a good K/D ratio without a big effort - true. But there are also all the problems people already stated in this topic which have undoubtedly an impact: E.g. If you can't play for hours a discordant game because people are obviously stacking, you can't argue that this isn't harming the game. You simply discredit people by calling them moody with bringing no valid arguments so far. Just stay out of the discussion if you have nothing to say.

I had a lot to say unlike you.

You should read what i wrote to make a solid post or reply.

I try to write it very simple.

The leaderboard dont change the players at all.
The only difference now everybody can see them.

Ps: what you mentioned is not true no evidence ppl cheat to play disoriant sc i didnt see prove.
And if there are any, they would do it without the leaderboard.

Also every leaderboard lover like me knows the rvr kills count not the sc farm and ofcourse the solo kills.

Let me write it very simple then too.
You are clearly missinformed here. All SC kills count towards the weeky killboard - In fact I've almost only played SC's this week and was on the leaderboard for a while. I assume you've checked all the past scenarios of the last month to safely say "there was not any stacking"? If not I'd like to refer to my previous post to stay out of this discussion.

You have serious problem to understand what i write ist it? Mybe because my english idk.

Every leaderboard lover like me know the sc kill doent matter dont have value. of course you can see them on leaderboard omg. If you check a player and saw he only farm sc with premade then you know its not the same value than open rvr guild vs guild or solo kills.

I assume you've checked all the past scenarios of the last month to safely say "there WAS any stacking"? If not I'd like to refer to my previous post to stay out of this discussion.

I also have to say if you cannot understand what i wrote maybe just write about your feelings and dont try to communicate with me or read it twice and think about it a bit i know my english is crappy but no so crappy imo. Most of the ppl usually understand it.


Try to be in topic.

My statement:

The leaderboard dont change the players behavior at all.
The only difference now everybody can see them.

Try to reflect this. Short easy sentences.

My other statement:
You know your fake reason is false.
You wanna cripple delete the leaderboard coz you have a bad k/d ratio imo. You should improve yourself deleteing the libra not solve your problems

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Trust me you wont kill more and die less if you cripple the leaderboard.

Some unasked advice for you. Think about yourself , your build your play style. Then try to find some friends and play together. This is an mmo after all. But if you play solo pug sc than dont cry about leaderboard and like it didnt help you and other bad k/d ratio plaer to improve them/yourself it also doesnt have affect to the good k/d ratio players behavior.

[Aluviya]

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I had a lot to say unlike you.

You should read what i wrote to make a solid post or reply.

I try to write it very simple.

The leaderboard dont change the players at all.
The only difference now everybody can see them.

Ps: what you mentioned is not true no evidence ppl cheat to play disoriant sc i didnt see prove.
And if there are any, they would do it without the leaderboard.

Also every leaderboard lover like me knows the rvr kills count not the sc farm and ofcourse the solo kills.

Let me write it very simple then too.
You are clearly missinformed here. All SC kills count towards the weeky killboard - In fact I've almost only played SC's this week and was on the leaderboard for a while. I assume you've checked all the past scenarios of the last month to safely say "there was not any stacking"? If not I'd like to refer to my previous post to stay out of this discussion.

You have serious problem to understand what i write ist it? Mybe because my english idk.

Every leaderboard lover like me know the sc kill doent matter dont have value. of course you can see them on leaderboard omg. If you check a player and saw he only farm sc with premade then you know its not the same value than open rvr guild vs guild or solo kills.

I assume you've checked all the past scenarios of the last month to safely say "there WAS any stacking"? If not I'd like to refer to my previous post to stay out of this discussion.

I also have to say if you cannot understand what i wrote maybe just write about your feelings and dont try to communicate with me or read it twice and think about it a bit i know my english is crappy but no so crappy imo. Most of the ppl usually understand it.


Try to be in topic.

My statement:

The leaderboard dont change the players behavior at all.
The only difference now everybody can see them.

Try to reflect this. Short easy sentences.


Reply for Repu:
Trust me you wont kill more and die less if you cripple the leaderboard.

Only because for you a SC Kill doesn't have any value, doesn't mean this is the same case for others. Eventually noone will check the leaderboard in detail about how and what. And while I agree, removing the leaderboard doesn't change a thing about the K/D ratio obsession of some players or their gameplay - unarguably is here the fact that the current details shown on the leaderboard has an effect on the game and specific players and some seek ways to ensure a safe farm with all the examples of "bad practises" that were mentioned in this topic already (crashing, stacking, not participating etc.) I could bring countless examples of the stacking in discordant games but that is not the topic here (and I do not wish to inculpate specific players here it's not my job to track these things).

[Belanoite]

If you haven't said about this Killboard, I'd never look to it. I think you're giving too much attention to something almost useless.

[SuperStar]

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Let me write it very simple then too.
You are clearly missinformed here. All SC kills count towards the weeky killboard - In fact I've almost only played SC's this week and was on the leaderboard for a while. I assume you've checked all the past scenarios of the last month to safely say "there was not any stacking"? If not I'd like to refer to my previous post to stay out of this discussion.

You have serious problem to understand what i write ist it? Mybe because my english idk.

Every leaderboard lover like me know the sc kill doent matter dont have value. of course you can see them on leaderboard omg. If you check a player and saw he only farm sc with premade then you know its not the same value than open rvr guild vs guild or solo kills.

I assume you've checked all the past scenarios of the last month to safely say "there WAS any stacking"? If not I'd like to refer to my previous post to stay out of this discussion.

I also have to say if you cannot understand what i wrote maybe just write about your feelings and dont try to communicate with me or read it twice and think about it a bit i know my english is crappy but no so crappy imo. Most of the ppl usually understand it.


Try to be in topic.

My statement:

The leaderboard dont change the players behavior at all.
The only difference now everybody can see them.

Try to reflect this. Short easy sentences.


Reply for Repu:
Trust me you wont kill more and die less if you cripple the leaderboard.

Only because for you a SC Kill doesn't have any value, doesn't mean this is the same case for others. Eventually noone will check the leaderboard in detail about how and what. And while I agree, removing the leaderboard doesn't change a thing about the K/D ratio obsession of some players or their gameplay - unarguably is here the fact that the current details shown on the leaderboard has an effect on the game and specific players and some seek ways to ensure a safe farm with all the examples of "bad practises" that were mentioned in this topic already (crashing, stacking, not participating etc.) I could bring countless examples of the stacking in discordant games but that is not the topic here (and I do not wish to inculpate specific players here it's not my job to track these things).

Like i said true leaderboard lover will check it. Like me.
There is no any evidence, you cannot prove it. So this is only baseless accusation. You should stop it immediately. If you see any cheater report it to gm in pm.

Guys i have a bad memory but yours worse.

On live there are olayers who played last stand to avoid death by others. It was very cool imo. Welfs with last stand killed wb leaders on event haahaha.

On live there were a lot of afker near wc to the pitty renown tick and how many afkers and cultivator omg.

On live almost all of the soloer run away if they saw they will die, even if they were the attacker. In 1vs1 yes.

And yes there was hardcore good player who said hc never dies.

And also there were hunter and box runners victims.

No connection with leaderboard at all.

If you dont find fun try to get some friend and improve yourself. Do not try to change the environment try to change yourself first.

[Xergon]

Killboard is amazing addition to the game.

It can give some ppl motivation to even play the game, it can give that competitive spiciness to the game.

I personally view killboard as a great content and great stat tracking source, nothing more nothing less. I do not compete to try be top weekly or monthly, i do not care if my terrible city or sc performance will be on display. I do not care what other ppl will think of my stats because im not insecure.

[Cyrylius]

To begin with, the issue apppeared only now not because those people did not play prior to introducing killboard, or because they were dying more, but because now everyone can see the K/D ratio difference between different players. Do you really think all those insert your hated class players will just start dying the moment you remove the killboard? Because i dont think removing it will make me suddenly start suiciding on any class, even heals i have literally no kills registered on. I dont need killboard to enjoy getting DBs (thats why i do have the deathblow addon) and i did not enjoy dying before it was introduced. And my theory is that this is how most players see the k/d ratio.

[Haojin]

People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer.

That's not the point, the point is the leaderboard is influencing players to actively sabotage gameplay to pad their own numbers by avoiding the fight and picking off lone players as 6man gank squads. I've seen the same in SC's, an entire 6 man premade designed to lift one player so they can pump their K/D on the leader boards. It's ridiculous.

wait, are you really give a **** about k/d in a half-dead alpha private server?

if the answer is truly yes from deep inside your fragile heart, you better not touch any kind of multiplayer game for your mental health. do you think people making cultist-style circles in their secret caves and name-shaming terrible players' shitty statistics on the killboard? i honestly think this kind of sensitive stereotype has a harsh time creating social links in real life.

killboard is an amazing feature to track statistics and personal data -a revolutionary step for ror if you ask me- ; having problem against it is just sign of having low level of multiplayer genre knowledge.

[Scottx125]

People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer.

That's not the point, the point is the leaderboard is influencing players to actively sabotage gameplay to pad their own numbers by avoiding the fight and picking off lone players as 6man gank squads. I've seen the same in SC's, an entire 6 man premade designed to lift one player so they can pump their K/D on the leader boards. It's ridiculous.

wait, are you really give a **** about k/d in a half-dead alpha private server?

if the answer is truly yes from deep inside your fragile heart, you better not touch any kind of multiplayer game for your mental health. do you think people making cultist-style circles in their secret caves and name-shaming terrible players' shitty statistics on the killboard? i honestly think this kind of sensitive stereotype has a harsh time creating social links in real life.

killboard is an amazing feature to track statistics and personal data -a revolutionary step for ror if you ask me- ; having problem against it is just sign of having low level of multiplayer genre knowledge.

A side from the extremely rude response, please read correctly. I don't, others do. I along with many people have seen the behaviour of people avoiding fights and building groups just to pump their K/D. And I'm sorry, but if you think people don't care enough about games, even a half-dead alpha private server to want their K/D to be the top of the board, you clearly don't have any knowledge of the multiplayer genre. Just look at real life, people go without bathing for decades just to get into a world records book. Despite the health issues it'd probably cause. As I said initially, is it good for measuring statistics? YES, In an ideal world. However, there are those individuals who instead of focusing on fighting and winning battles and playing the game, instead focus on pumping their K/D by any means necessary, even if that means leaving players or guilds to get wiped so that they can get the kills instead of everyone else.

If the leader board focused on more generic information, that would help. Total damage, healing and protection of players for example. Rather than total kills/deaths.

[SepticDisaster]

Personally I like the analytical portion of Killboard. Seeing who assisted on a kill, percentage of damage I did etc. I also like that if I drink too much I can go back the next morning and see what zones I fought in! "I don't remember being in Ostland...."

[Vri]

Just because your choppa has almost triple the amount of deaths to kills it doesn´t need to get deleted. Improving your gameplay would be an option tho.

thankyou for proving my point

not how that works.