classes role

[Foltestik]

thnx for all the replies , but i am not sure all of you read (understood) what i said correctly , "I WAS HEALING TOO" , of course if i see a teammate getting attacked , i ll heal them , or support them the best way i can , what i am saying is that people need to stop nagging us to always heal , i run path of wrath , so even if i get a book out and a tiny hammer , i am not sure to fulffil my healing role to it s fullest , "I WANT POEPLE TO SEE ME AS A OFF HEAL " , not a full heal . because i chose not to heal , but dps (probably because i like the class look and mechanics , etc. as a dps of course) .

stay playing your dps WP, dont listening to people that you can play best healer in game but you play crapy dps.
i always like dps WP, mostly becouse i play destro and they are easy to kill

[Tesq]

dps wp doesnt suck at all , i invite any of you to 1 vs 1 me . (and again dont defend this by saying this is a zerg game and blah blah blah blah )

you dont understand it's a group game , you can opt for a more personal build even if it's not the best but you cannot totaly go against the role of the class.

If you random join queue expect ppl ask you to heal as you are a healer and not a dps. The fact that you can go 2h it's a remnant of the past. When you point out wow you make a mistake, this is not wow, classes here have some specific function and they do not have for exemple like wow warrior the stance to pass from tank dps and vice-versa. Also if GROUP need it you must heal as you are the only one able to do that.
Specifically, wP/Dok cna dps only if they have the best gear avaible and some specific tactics.
War group play with 2 tank 2 dps 2 healer, there are not better set up, there are no other set up.

IF you have 4 healer in sc or you have sufficent heal you can go dps if not get a book/chalice and heal.
If you are not happy 3/4 melee classes can heal themself, tank can heal themself and do some damage.
so re-roll or leave the game.

[Waaghaa]

Bit harsh there m8, since he plays order, its their problem I say, hell, I gladly meet you in any SC if you play as a dps WP especially if you guys dont have enough healers.

[K13R]

ever since the books were made to have RF regen you role has been to Spam the **** out of group heal and cleanse. Prior to that WP were a wasted slot in the /sc cause they blow up so easy and tank useally don't babysit lolderps

[katroulitsa]

You can also win a sc 500/0 without healers if your team rush and have good focus. All is possible in this game!

Do tell me how a sorc will manage to stay alive in scs without healers! Everything is possible as you said when you have a good premade with the most powerful classes in the game aka slayer, IBs etc but people forget some classes can't even survive without a hot.
I don't know the OP and his/hers playstyle but I wouldn't think high of him/her if s/he chose to play a dps WP. I do have some Order heal dps classes myself and i rarely do scs simply because i realise my main role; that of a healer. And i do know a few dps shamans who only do rvr as well. You can't doom your whole team just cuz you wanna play the class with your special, unique and super fabulous spec. You primarily role is that of a healer and you should stick to it in sc's, unless there's plethora of healers. It's not a moba, you can't carry your team. You have to cooperate with your teammates, assist em, tank for em and in some cases heal em. Cheers!

[Azarael]

ever since the books were made to have RF regen you role has been to Spam the **** out of group heal and cleanse. Prior to that WP were a wasted slot in the /sc cause they blow up so easy and tank useally don't babysit lolderps

Utterly wrong solution on their part. I pray to God it can be undone.

[K13R]

ever since the books were made to have RF regen you role has been to Spam the **** out of group heal and cleanse. Prior to that WP were a wasted slot in the /sc cause they blow up so easy and tank useally don't babysit lolderps

Utterly wrong solution on their part. I pray to God it can be undone.

Oh I hope so, I played a DoK in live and after they made that change I spamed group heal for 70rr I dont play a Dok here cause I know how that story ends

[Penril]

ever since the books were made to have RF regen you role has been to Spam the **** out of group heal and cleanse. Prior to that WP were a wasted slot in the /sc cause they blow up so easy and tank useally don't babysit lolderps

Utterly wrong solution on their part. I pray to God it can be undone.

Nerfing the SE/RF regen on books/chalices, while buffing their melee group heal by a lot, could be a solution.

[Penril]

Last day my nephew (10years old) play on my shaman, at the end of a sc someone mp him to say that he is a bitch cause my nephew doesn't rez him and does some dps. But that guy wasn't in my nephews's group... 2 days ago this same guy mp me to say that i play good my sh...
I answered him that is not a good player if he fights too far of his proper healer. Those kind of people will continue to die stupidly... or reroll healer..

It's like people insult you when you play a dps tank and don't put your guard. I think it's stupid to put a guard if you dps, you are not there to take dammages! Real tanks are there for that.
In team we can do crasy combo with 2 dps warrior priest and 2 dps knight of the blasing sun. It's realy tanky ,have good dps, and can have some heals. It's better than 2 real healers and 2 real tanks, in this case you are tanky, that's all.

You can also win a sc 500/0 without healers if your team rush and have good focus. All is possible in this game!
(2 dps Dok, 1 choppa, 2 BO tank, 1 BG dps --> realy funny)

A healer spec dps can also cap flags alone in sc and can kill 1 or 2 ennemies alone when the others are in the fight.

Just want to say: People, play as you want if you have fun like that!

All is possible in this game... while facing pugs. But as soon as you meet a decent, coordinated premade where Tanks tank and Healers heal and DPS do dps, you will get facerolled.

You can play as you want; however, SCs are not some kind of solo mini-game in your personal single player campaign. There are 11 other players there with you who want to win. And when you decide to "play as you want", you risk their chances to win. Imho, you are being selfish if you go loldps healer when it is clear your group needs a real healer, or go loldps 2h tank when there are no other tanks in your SC and you have 2 Choppas and a Sorc in your party. You can play as you want in ORvR, but in SCs you either help the group or gtfo.

[Telen]

Has it been discussed to bring back the melee heal that was switched for a single target ap heal? That one change alone killed melee healing stone dead and gave wp/dok the one thing the other healers had over them.

Really balancing a class that needs the survivability for melee while also having a full backline heal spec was never going to work. Id take regen off books increase the regen from melee and give them a rootbreak. You'll never balance them as a backline healer without wrecking them as melee.