To give rdps CC before tanks should have been questionable

[Tesq]

There are many morales not mirrored to be found on both factions, e.g.:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bg; ... 893:0:0:0:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :4781:0:0:

Yea but those aren't cc morals mate. Until something have impact only on yourself it can be even an origianl skill like bw self cleanse, when things start to be usable aoe on enemy, not have 1 mirror in the other realm make the whole thing unabalance; look no escape. Also have different CD for counters, look choppa fasta nerfed to 2min coldown and slayer shatter enchantment still have a 20 sec coldown.

[Aurilian]

Yo Tesq, would really like to hear your thoughts on how to balance the Swordmaster. Would you increase dps to make it a true dps tank, or give it increased cc, crit chance etc? I'm genuinely curious.

[Soulcheg]

Yo Tesq, would really like to hear your thoughts on how to balance the Swordmaster. Would you increase dps to make it a true dps tank, or give it increased cc, crit chance etc? I'm genuinely curious.

I guess since it's opposite side, so "let's nerf them to the ground, because they OP'

[Azarael]

I'd be interested in talking more about SM, but it would probably be better in a dedicated thread.

[Bozzax]

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1kobs, 1IB 2x slayer and 2x wp where a premade for some reason........

Some could say the same about 1x chosen, 1x bo/bg, 2x marauder, 2x dok.

I'm working on a buff/debuff sheet, that is showing (among other things) the debuffs of classes and the possiblities of healers to cleanse them. It's on hold till the combat rework is done, so i know which debuffs are cleansable (tooltips are mostly not very informative).
In the case of my upper example only the debuffs from the chosen and/or the BG could be cleansed by 2x WP setup, not a single debuff from the marauders (and these are the deadly ones).
This makes 2x WP not very favourable imo.

btw 10 crit resistce debuff it's almost the same to buff 10% crit chance, healer do not fight anyway....so what the point to point that luth?

Everything that buffs critchances, buffs healcrit chances too (except stated otherwise, e.g. only meee crit chance). Dirty tricks buffs healcrit chances by 10% too.

I did already wrote, why the strength aura is weak in my opinion (or useless because of better ones).

m2/m3 just the same still not suppose to be there, why he got a mirror from IB with no reason? kobs mirror classes should be BG and chosen.....

I still fail to see what you mean with "mirror from ib", as the ib has no aoe moral root.

Rock clucth IB moral 1,
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=ib; ... 3748:0:0:0:

seems we have different point of view on strengh aura in that kind of premade. But is not my intention to start flame but i didnt understand your point of view, for those strength vs tough auras issue.

OH cool so you add the fact that Kobs fuff too 10% crit chance!! wonderfull i don't now that -.-
luth you are a good person, but keaven gave us the test of each melee dps in game
slayer 3.0k AOE damage
marauder 3.5 single target damage

You could tell me ID cannot be cleanse, still mara had PB bugged so? how it end? at the end of the day if ID got no clease slayer still do 3+ k damage aoe, while mara after fix that bug, get in the same bracked as White lion.

Still there are other issue with wp vs dok and slayer vs mara, what about shatter limbs? wp tovl jew that are healing while dok are not healing? Then as you said, kobs buff 10 crit chance (even to heal) and then increase base heal +15%

Tesq you have these numbers somewhere cause I'd interested to see them if possible? (thanks in advance)

[Coryphaus]

My suggestion is for SM is that right now they have great survive ability like an said but can do nothing of value for a group with that amount of time so why rework them to have much better cc? Kobs and ib take care of buff but even if sm's still deal crap dmg they can really help control the flow of battle

This in turn will let you nerf Kobs cc n stuff to bring them more in line with chosens

[Bozzax]

SM thread?

[Azarael]

SM thread.

[noisestorm]

Buff WPs!
Nerf all Destros!

amidoingitrite?

[Luth]

SM thread?

SM thread.

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