WLs are the new SHs

[jonspidy]

Are SH actually complaining about WL pets? A ranged class WITH pets (both melee and range who can also shoot through walls) are complaining about a melee class with a melee pet? cmon...

Do you even read?

So theres a small bug that gives the lion a little more hp and dmg. So what? That will most likely get fixed in the next month or so. Just cause your class (and im sure others) can no longer beat them in a 1v1 doesnt mean you have to get all bent out of shape.

[magter3001]

Are SH actually complaining about WL pets? A ranged class WITH pets (both melee and range who can also shoot through walls) are complaining about a melee class with a melee pet? cmon...

First, the SH pets are not suppose to shoot through walls, it's a bug. Second, WL pets do more damage than any SH pet CURRENTLY, not T2 or T4 but here in T1. I've played both classes during live and will now be forced to create a character on Order, WL, just to prove a point to my self for a second time that if a WL properly switches stances in T1 combat, they can own many classes just with their pet alone.

Thank you so much to everyone QQing for forcing me to do something I don't want to.

[Bullen1995]

Are SH actually complaining about WL pets? A ranged class WITH pets (both melee and range who can also shoot through walls) are complaining about a melee class with a melee pet? cmon...

Do you even read?

So theres a small bug that gives the lion a little more hp and dmg. So what? That will most likely get fixed in the next month or so. Just cause your class (and im sure others) can no longer beat them in a 1v1 doesnt mean you have to get all bent out of shape.

Well you clearly haven't red my post again, the problem is the pets over all and the pets path finding system and the fact that u cant snare or slow pets as well as mobs, I had no ide about that there was damage bug but the hp was the only issue i knew about. When it comes to my 1v1 thay are not a match for my SH and save the miss quoting please.

[Azarael]

There is no damage bug, just FYI.

Pet attacks are considered to be dealt from a green single-handed weapon of the pet's level. A pet's offensive stats work according to the pet-related buffs. This goes for all pets.

[Renork]

You cannot snare or root pets. WL pets hit the hardest currently and can destroy ranged dps by themselves. Will they be toned down in t2? Again, keep in mind that they warp and chase you all over, you cannot kite them or CC them. 2 pets on you and you're done.

[Morf]

You cannot snare or root pets. WL pets hit the hardest currently and can destroy ranged dps by themselves. Will they be toned down in t2? Again, keep in mind that they warp and chase you all over, you cannot kite them or CC them. 2 pets on you and you're done.

Pets are strongest in tier 1, expect views to completely change in other tiers when pets become more a problem to the owner then your opponent

[magter3001]

Renork nailed it though that the pets do warp around and can be used to exploit a lot of things in-game. I played the class for 1 hour and already got a lot of bugs to report about the class. Definitely don't want to touch that class again.

[Kaitanaroyr]

Pet abilities should ideally trigger a gcd on WL as he/she commands the pet so no extra/free actions

No one would use the pet then pet doesn't do enough adding a gcd to its master when wl relies on burst with its high ap cost skills and if wl has to get a gcd sh,mag,engi get it as well

[Kaitanaroyr]

This in turn will make the pets too valuable of a commodity that they dare not lose.

The WL +50% increased critdamage tactic is only working, while the pet is alive. So for most WL players, it was already very punishing to loose the pet, as he was loosing a big part of his burst capabilities.
It was very easy to "disarm" most WL players for a while by simply killing the squishi pet.

Till you run into the revenge build wl then yr dead for killing the pet

[magter3001]

This in turn will make the pets too valuable of a commodity that they dare not lose.

The WL +50% increased critdamage tactic is only working, while the pet is alive. So for most WL players, it was already very punishing to loose the pet, as he was loosing a big part of his burst capabilities.
It was very easy to "disarm" most WL players for a while by simply killing the squishi pet.

Till you run into the revenge build wl then yr dead for killing the pet

When playing my SH on live, I never killed the pet. Never even targeted them because why waste a single AP point on the pet. Not to mention most WL would just pounce at you the second they are in range.

I remember on the live servers in T3, I literally pounced a SH to death. Didn't use a single other ability and killed him, and not a noob SH, he actually tried to kite me and everything. Wasn't enough. So why attack the pet then in that situation?

Also I saw very little WL at max level, at least on my server, and though that did play always played without their War Lion. Went full loner and did a massive amount of damage regardless.