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Poll: Small buff or not

Yes small buff is needed
55
71%
No
23
29%
Total votes: 78

RORquest
Posts: 77

Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#71 » Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:43 am

Florian90210 wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:23 am I guess Gravord nerfed his own class dps just to get CDR thingy for his SC comp.
Do destro even have something powerful with 5 sec CD to really exploit it?
Yes
Squig herder can spam big bouncing
shaman can spam fotg
Black orc spam waaagh!

this was a deliberate nerf to greenskins/destruction

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Florian90210
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Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#72 » Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:49 pm

RORquest wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:43 am Yes
Squig herder can spam big bouncing
shaman can spam fotg
Black orc spam waaagh!

this was a deliberate nerf to greenskins/destruction
big bouncing is channel and 8 sec cd, it's not spammable.
BO's waagh is not really good damage ability and it's locked behind plans, so no huge advantage with CDR
fotg is the only good thing useful with CDR thingy.

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Sinisterror
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Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#73 » Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:12 pm

Old 1 tank 1 Choppa 1 Sorc machine gun gameplay should be returned just a bit nerfed version. Change Lengthening the Shadow tactic to " Increase the radius of Infernal Wave and Pit of Shades by 33% " So its not 100ft machine gunning only 65ft. Man Shammy/Am was so much more fun when Fotg/Eov was usable while moving if you had right force/waaagh.
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RORquest
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Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#74 » Thu Jan 29, 2026 6:04 am

Florian90210 wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:49 pm
RORquest wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:43 am Yes
Squig herder can spam big bouncing
shaman can spam fotg
Black orc spam waaagh!

this was a deliberate nerf to greenskins/destruction
big bouncing is channel and 8 sec cd, it's not spammable.
BO's waagh is not really good damage ability and it's locked behind plans, so no huge advantage with CDR
fotg is the only good thing useful with CDR thingy.
big bouncing is channel 3secs by the time it ends you can cast again.... its spamable while fotwk is up
Bo's was good before changes
Fotg yeah its good , argue semantics more.

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Sever1n
Posts: 485

Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#75 » Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:58 am

Heh so squigs can spam 360 aoe with 8sec cd, but all those years of screams was about nerf of lions 360 OP aoe with 13 sec cd with same damage. And let me guess bis msh armpen is near 80%? 15%dmg tactic+25% from loner, and healdebuff on demand+healing channel? So destro have better copy of lion that they dont wanna use, but demanded nerf of lion?) This is just precious. Interesting how long they still be under the radars.

Well atleast now we know where BG shine - gobbos best friend :D
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Florian90210
Posts: 204

Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#76 » Thu Jan 29, 2026 2:00 pm

Sever1n wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:58 am Heh so squigs can spam 360 aoe with 8sec cd, but all those years of screams was about nerf of lions 360 OP aoe with 13 sec cd with same damage. And let me guess bis msh armpen is near 80%? 15%dmg tactic+25% from loner, and healdebuff on demand+healing channel? So destro have better copy of lion that they dont wanna use, but demanded nerf of lion?) This is just precious. Interesting how long they still be under the radars.

Well atleast now we know where BG shine - gobbos best friend :D
Loonies guild were running MSH WBs but damage wasn't really impressive. I guess it was lack of procs for additional damage. But I saw 4 lions bypassing postern and wiping entire pug wb in spin and few cleaves.

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normanis
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Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#77 » Thu Jan 29, 2026 2:42 pm

when ib can spam aoe like bg can? runes -etched axe?
bg got knock down because ib has it.
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Illuminati
Posts: 479

Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#78 » Thu Jan 29, 2026 3:40 pm

Florian90210 wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 2:00 pm
Sever1n wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:58 am Heh so squigs can spam 360 aoe with 8sec cd, but all those years of screams was about nerf of lions 360 OP aoe with 13 sec cd with same damage. And let me guess bis msh armpen is near 80%? 15%dmg tactic+25% from loner, and healdebuff on demand+healing channel? So destro have better copy of lion that they dont wanna use, but demanded nerf of lion?) This is just precious. Interesting how long they still be under the radars.

Well atleast now we know where BG shine - gobbos best friend :D
Loonies guild were running MSH WBs but damage wasn't really impressive. I guess it was lack of procs for additional damage. But I saw 4 lions bypassing postern and wiping entire pug wb in spin and few cleaves.
The proc's are a nice help. SHs also getting interrupted more often and it's difficult to get a full channel off. RetAlert + non-targeted interrupts are an issue.
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Florian90210
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Re: BUFF the BG already

Post#79 » Thu Jan 29, 2026 4:15 pm

normanis wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 2:42 pm bg got knock down because ib has it.
there were handful of changes between them.
IB got outgoing HD because BG has it.
BG's now willpower buff used to debuff cast time by 1 sec.

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