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[Thorondir]

Any chance we could have these PRDPS tactics dropped from level 33 to level 32? These tactics give PRDPS additional WS and BS at the cost of toughness. They were introduced as part of the PRDPS rebalance on live. They are mirrored off of a slayer/choppa tactic that is available at level 15.

The additional WS from these tactics was core to all PRDPS builds on live. Armour stacking has gotten pretty heavy in T3 as everyone gets geared. Any reason why this core PRDPS tactic couldn't be dropped down a level? There are similar tactics already in play and it is only one level, I don't think this is balance breaking.

[Euan]

I was gonna make the same suggestion.

[SilverWF]

Disagree
Phys ranged DPS is already strong for current lvl cap

1. There is still not much armor here. Spec some WS!
2. This will buff SH, SW and Engineer, and Magus will became a totally bullsh... in comparison with them.

[TenTonHammer]

are mirrored off of a slayer/choppa tactic that is available at level 15.

No, cuase first and formost the slayer wild gambit tactic was avalible at 15, choppas dont wanna live for eva mirror tactic was not avalible till 33, az changed it so that insted of getting a pointless pve tactic at 15 choppas would get the mirror tactic at 15 too.

if all 3 of those abilites are all avalible at 33 simultaneously then why do they need to be moved to 32? Just wait for the next level raise a lot of classes have tactics at lvl 33 their looking forward to

[Qrazy]

2. This will buff SH, SW and Engineer, and Magus will became a totally bullsh... in comparison with them.

By your logic Engie is garbage compared to Magus since the Magus doesn't have to worry about WS.

[SilverWF]

2. This will buff SH, SW and Engineer, and Magus will became a totally bullsh... in comparison with them.

By your logic Engie is garbage compared to Magus since the Magus doesn't have to worry about WS.

1. This is not my logic, but yours.
2, Read the point 1 of my prev. post.

[Thorondir]

are mirrored off of a slayer/choppa tactic that is available at level 15.

No, cuase first and formost the slayer wild gambit tactic was avalible at 15, choppas dont wanna live for eva mirror tactic was not avalible till 33, az changed it so that insted of getting a pointless pve tactic at 15 choppas would get the mirror tactic at 15 too.

if all 3 of those abilites are all avalible at 33 simultaneously then why do they need to be moved to 32? Just wait for the next level raise a lot of classes have tactics at lvl 33 their looking forward to

I am asking for them to be moved to 32 because that is the level cap and these are core tactics for PRDPS viability. The problem is related to the artificial level cap in RoR. It really isn't different from changing shadow sting so that it wasn't available in T2.

[Thorondir]

Disagree
Phys ranged DPS is already strong for current lvl cap

1. There is still not much armor here. Spec some WS!
2. This will buff SH, SW and Engineer, and Magus will became a totally bullsh... in comparison with them.

1. Even medium armor mdps is able to push armor cap in T3 without giving up too much. Armor pots are widely available now. WS stacking is of course vital but cannot be stacked at the same rate as armor. This is why these tactics were implemented on live.

2. This isn't a buff, these are core tactics. Magus does not have physical damage, this is how the balance always was on live.

[TenTonHammer]

The fact of the matter is that many core tactics and abilities are not available for many of the classes, what justification is there for Engie, sh and sw to get both a 33 tactic and a morale at 32?

So either just stick to it and gun it out till t3 on the classes or stop playing them till the cap is 33

[Thorondir]

The fact of the matter is that many core tactics and abilities are not available for many of the classes, what justification is there for Engie, sh and sw to get both a 33 tactic and a morale at 32?

So either just stick to it and gun it out till t3 on the classes or stop playing them till the cap is 33

Why did that logic not apply to the shadow sting changes then?