Question on damage multipliers

[shebali]

I would like to know what multipliers are being used in this game. Because it is not the same vs what LIVE was. Some classes damage are too much and not in line with what T3 should be or even T4 damage.

The perfect example is.

T4 LIVE :

Witch elf Auto Attacks with 57 DPS weapons and Capped 1050 str and some melee damage did the following.

AW= 1500
Auto Attacks Main Hand: 600-700

Current server, people are hitting with 900 Auto Attacks with AW and Torment for 1100. These are T4 higher RR numbers.

I have tons of examples where I know what LIVE damage was and currently with this server and level 32 damage is wayyyyyyyy higher. Like 30% higher for some classes.


So, what is the goal. Are you guys just making up stats and the damage? Are you missing information? Are we going to see normal damage? Because, this will get of control half way into T4. Just trying to get an idea.

[TenTonHammer]

Consider a few things

peoples gear is all over the place some people run around with sentry/enchalon gear/whatever they scrouged up in T2

Other are rolling with BiS deva/duelist with brig weapons etc etc

secondly factor in that T4 had a very strong defensive meta with TB and stuff

Its hardly a level playing field and we will wait and see what happens in T4 if it gets to obscene im sure the devs will react accordingly right now its not so bad WH/WE hitting in that range is not such a big deal in my opinion considering that is their role

[shebali]

Well, my point of talking about a few of those moves are Armor does not matter and vs soft targets most don't have Toughness. So, the damage they take is pretty much the same all across the board. You have people doing damage with only 600-700 of their main stat while they have no magic power or melee power.

Just pointing out whatever they used is not in line with live stats. And if that is correct, the whole game is not going to be the same. Tank melee is going to be crazy, WE/WH will insta gib people in 1-2 seconds. So on and so on.

I am just more or less looking for a confirmation that they are not using the live math to get damage.

[Joshwa70]

Sorry. Seen aa do 3200 in t4 before. 900 isn't bad. Tb is what you are missing and thank God.

[shebali]

Sorry. Seen aa do 3200 in t4 before. 900 isn't bad. Tb is what you are missing and thank God.

Dude, I am not talking about RR100. I am talking about basic T4. Pre 80. No TOVL gear. That is what T4 really is. Also, 3200 AA damage is a Slow DPS weapon, not a 1.7 weapon speed.

The damage is off right now. Just looking for they are trying to get it at live damage or just making their own thing.

[TenTonHammer]

Well this is a bit off topic but....

are you the same shebali as in this vid?


Click here to watch on YouTube

[shebali]

Well this is a bit off topic but....

are you the same shebali as in this vid?


Click here to watch on YouTube

Yes

[dirnsterer]

There certainly seems to be something. Maybe it is the 32 level starting to bleed into T4 while remaining at T3 or then it takes something out of the system they later on implemented with the new tiering system (on live). I just do not remember that too well as I never had alts that I played much on the later stages of the game. It does not seem anything too major though.

But I do have a faint memory of AW crits going over to 2,2k damage without Trivial Blows in T4.

But then again, I might be crazy.

[Sizer]

It does seem pretty high. My choppa has hit 1200 aa's and thats just with the sc weapon, if I ever found a brigands it would be even higher. Thats with full rage, 25% crit damage, and flanking, which are a lot of damage modifiers, but most mdps can get similar modifiers. Pre 100 gear I didnt play a choppa but my wl would hit maybe 1500 aa's (hard to recall here, but i dont remember getting past 2k), and thats at 40 with 87 dps weapons and capped str.

So yea, it does seem different, and thats possible as the devs basically rebuilt the game from the ground up. I wouldnt worry though, if it gets too crazy in t4 it will be adjusted eventually.

[Scrilian]

Minmaxed levels of damage of the Slayer vs Door. 1053 str, 101dps weapon and 50% armorpen. Before the sovereign set rebalance and sc weapons.

Spoiler:

And some of my max crit damage hits testing
(with sov weapon but prior to set rebalance)

Spoiler:

All this is with max RR80 of that time, no moronic 90-100 gear and hidden levels