[KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

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Vaele
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[KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#1 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:16 pm

Hello, I never played a KOTBS in live so I wanted to try one out here in RoR. I'm rank 25 atm and I've noticed that the highest damage ability on the knight is Blazing Blade, stack it up to 3 and you get pretty big DoT rolling.

My question is will KOTBS gameplay always revolve around stacking BB and keeping it up constantly? Or is there anything that changes this later on, be it mastery or tactics or anything else.

One guy on this forum mentioned that he doesn't use it at all and just uses precision strike instead, but surely this would be a damage loss right? I know tanks aren't damage dealers, but skipping it would just mean wasted potential?

I'm asking about this cause I don't really feel this is a fun mechanic, for me at least. Using 3 GCDs almost every target swap just to stack BB. And then making damn sure it doesn't fall off, or you'd have to use it 3 times again. So if this is the case then it's probably best I stop leveling my KOTBS and try something else, because for me it's not that fun. :)

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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#2 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:20 pm

I think you would need to look at the opportunity cost. If you are using 3 GCD's on a DoT that probably isn't going to do much in the long run, you are not using better abilities like CC
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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#3 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:29 pm

Dependable if you go 2h or Sword and Broad. In case of first: precision strike, bb ocasionally when fight is going to take a while, mostly duels. Second: post above.

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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#4 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:53 pm

Crenshaw wrote:Dependable if you go 2h or Sword and Broad. In case of first: precision strike, bb ocasionally when fight is going to take a while, mostly duels. Second: post above.

So if you are 2H user there will come a point where precision strike is almost as good/better? Obviously at level 25 it's hard to judge these things as I'm missing a lot of stats that could matter or change these things drastically due to scaling, which is why I'm asking in the first place. :)

Right now at level 25 using 2H and full points into Glory tree, using 3 GCDs for BB is almost twice the damage compared to 3 GCDs for PS, if BB gets to tick 3 times.

And yes, obviously I know that there are certain times and conditions where you don't care about blazing blade (or damage in general, cause there are way better things to use your GCDs on, depending on the situation).

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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#5 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:22 pm

As for 2hander. First of all go into one of those builds couse thez are vastly superior to Glory in terms of damage, utility and defense capabilities.

This one is what i used for a long time. Ofc its tailored for r40 rr40, during leveling just go into conquest tree first.

waronlinebuilder.org - Knight of the Blazing Sun build

It offers aoe defense debuff, must have 10% crit bonus for your party and ap aura + 3 sec knockdown in vigilance tree. It also massivly increase damage from Precision Strike.

This is more defensive one and my personal favourite. Its more endgame one since it focuses on defense capabilities. You will deal less damage and lack aoe debuff but it will grant you Vigilance which greatly increases your survival capabilites.

waronlinebuilder.org - Knight of the Blazing Sun build

As for gameplay - please remember that you are support, tank not simply a mdps while wielding 2hander. Use guard, assist other people, throw cc, help your mates and deal damage as last option, when theres nothing more valueable to do. In both builds put your renown points into Parry and Dodge/Disrutp. Gear should be defensible, focused on parry%. As for talis str/ws. Toughness and Armor potions.

Ill write some gameplay tips later if you will be intrested since I g2g now :)

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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#6 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:03 pm

Crenshaw wrote: waronlinebuilder.org - Knight of the Blazing Sun build

As for gameplay - please remember that you are support, tank not simply a mdps while wielding 2hander. Use guard, assist other people, throw cc, help your mates and deal damage as last option, when theres nothing more valueable to do. In both builds put your renown points into Parry and Dodge/Disrutp. Gear should be defensible, focused on parry%. As for talis str/ws. Toughness and Armor potions.

Ill write some gameplay tips later if you will be intrested since I g2g now :)
This exactly. That build is superior with Vigilance.

"you are support" + "not simply a mdps" - This 110%.

"put your renown points into Parry and Dodge/Disrupt" - again 110%

Dont get fooled by chasing "damage" or "DPS" thats not your job. Your job is to add a little "utility damage" while being 1 tanky ass mofo and keeping your guard-ee alive by staying next to them at ALL times.

Frankly, I think all Knights should SNB as you get Shield Charge which is HUGE and the cost of the 2H really doesnt cost you THAT much damage quite frankly... So I would go offensive gear (Merc) + STR Talis, SnB and use +parry jewelry and some STR/Morale jewelry as well. Shoot for like 650-700 STR with your SNB and youll do decent damage and be pretty tanky too.

2H doesnt offer anything unique to Knights. If you have no "2H restricted" skills you might as well just use SNB...
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Vaele
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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#7 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:19 pm

This is not a 2H vs SNB discussion, or gearing discussion. I'm not sure why you guys are talking about these things, unless they affect Blazing Blade in such a way that it's used or not.

What I was asking was if Blazing Blade will always be integral to kotbs gameplay, if you decide to spend a GCD for damage (meaning there's nothing better to do or spend the GCD on), because right now where I'm at, it offers more personal DPS than any other skill.

Or are you implying at later levels, you do not really have time ever to stack BB to 3 and keep it up while doing other "support" things?

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Crenshaw
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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#8 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:22 pm

Thats for what my wall of text was, to show that bb isnt actually used much and speccing for it isnt good idea.

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Re: [KOTBS] Blazing Blade importance?

Post#9 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:44 am

Vaele wrote:
Right now at level 25 using 2H and full points into Glory tree, using 3 GCDs for BB is almost twice the damage compared to 3 GCDs for PS, if BB gets to tick 3 times.
True for lvl 40 as well
Based dmg for BB is twice that of PS
3x the dmg on tank if you get Mighty Soul.
Vaele wrote: Or are you implying at later levels, you do not really have time ever to stack BB to 3 and keep it up while doing other "support" things?
You don't need to stack BB to 3 times. Base BB dmg is 1.5x PS in most cases and cost less AP.
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