Weapon skill and BO

[Acidic]

Hi
Just woondering if any have done analysis of how effective weapon skill is gor a aoe BO
I noticed that wirh the tactics BO firbest plan on parry that increased weapon skill realy made a differece. Any other thinling weapon skill for a BO is imteresting tovstack ? Or have i been drinking too muck

[TenTonHammer]

Gonna tell you right now that, that tactic is not a very good one if you want to proc a fast da best plan you can just hit: change da plan > big swing which will put you into da best plan if you need a fast KD or something

BO cannot amass a lot of WS even with high boss tree path buffed follow me lead

[Collateral]

Well, seems to me you've been drinking regardless

But yes, the tactic is not the best one. And I wouldn't say that a bo can't have decent WS. You could reach over 500 I'm sure. If you're full boss the buff will be 120, and if you take full BL gear you will have around 400+. Now if you start stacking WS talis you could reach 500, but I really don't think that's worth it.

[ragafury]

well, I'm not stacking WS but I prefer BL jewel, cloak, book over full genesis even for a defensive specc,...
and just because cloak and jewel from genesis are really underwhelming standalone compared to the BL options, same goes for last set boni of genesis it's pretty meh.
so the choice is for me BL cloak (nice stats + tali slot) > genesis cloak (okay stats) and BL jewel (okay stats) > genesis shard (wow, no stats, great item -_-), even though the set bonis are 3% reduced arm pen (good) and 60hp/4sec (meh) compared to +58 WS (well...).

So I end up in my warband template with:
6/6 Conq
3/5 genesis
3/6(7) BL

which brings me to 365 WS (and 288 Str without pot), which is 26% arm pen total and a gain of 3,6% parry.

but as I mentioned, not aiming for it, just the standalone stats (resistance, toughness, str, ws) from BL are better in my opinion (better stats and +tali slot).

[roadkillrobin]

If you're talking abouit No Choppin' Me! tatcic, then i can tell you it's one of the worst 12 point tactics in the game. Group pretty much always gonna have WS buff from Da Biggest, which is pretty much the only Warbellow worth using. When FML and NCM used to stack on live it was worth it, (Giving 240 WS to a choppa was really good), but on RoR it's crapp.

[Tesq]

If you're talking abouit No Choppin' Me! tatcic, then i can tell you it's one of the worst 12 point tactics in the game. Group pretty much always gonna have WS buff from Da Biggest, which is pretty much the only Warbellow worth using. When FML and NCM used to stack on live it was worth it, (Giving 240 WS to a choppa was really good), but on RoR it's crapp.

eh uhm what? so you are telling me that the discussion we had early on the server about SM be able to stack double spiritual debuff served nothing and instead BO cannot stack wep skill now? im a bit confused.....when this happened and why.... are you sure this is not a bug or something?

[Bozzax]

Labeled a bugfix by devs not in any patchnotes

[Penril]

If you're talking abouit No Choppin' Me! tatcic, then i can tell you it's one of the worst 12 point tactics in the game. Group pretty much always gonna have WS buff from Da Biggest, which is pretty much the only Warbellow worth using. When FML and NCM used to stack on live it was worth it, (Giving 240 WS to a choppa was really good), but on RoR it's crapp.

Let's "theorycraft"

Ok. Let's say you only have one tank. Just one, and it happens to be a BO. Let's also assume you have a Choppa and SH in your group.

Choppa KD is 2 seconds, drops rage (unless running Wot Rules?) and SH needs Squig Armor AND to be in melee range in order to use his. So it might be a good idea to have the BO spec for DYG. Since AoE snare is pretty much mandatory, you end up with a Toughest/Boss spec with zero points in Brawler. This means your stat steal is crap (how much does it steal at zero points?).

The Bo could run something like this:

http://www.ror.builders/career/black-or ... ,4462,4464

He would have:
a) ST KD
b) AoE snare
c) Group WS buff (good for the Choppa and the SH; Mara also benefits from it but they have Piercing Bite, same with WEs and Agonizing Wound/Pierce Armor)
d) He can run "Da Greenest" for damn good resist/armor buffs to cover for lack of Chosen aura (these values are better than a Zealot/Shaman buff).
e) Undefendable 20% Physical damage debuff

Is it better than your cookie cutter Brawler specs? Well... maybe for this group setup, it could be.

@tesq: according to RoR stacking rules, NCM (a tactic) and Da Biggest! (a skill) should stack. However, they didn't stack on live. SM debuffs, on the other hand, did.

As for the OP, I believe he is talking about the tactic that puts you in Best plan when you parry (Bring em On) and asking if stacking WS is a good idea (more WS = more parry = more BeO ). And my answer is no, because, honestly: BeO sucks.

[tazdingo]

didn't all KDs get changed to min 3sec a while ago?

i was looking at a similar build simply to try and make da greenest viable but i read somewhere that all KDs were normalized

[Tesq]

ye all KD are 3 sec; but apart from that i know that it stacked on live. oh well guess then is just better this way and finish the job with sm then kill that debuff stack please XD