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Beastlord set for Disciple of Khaine is obviously for healers, with willpower on every set piece and with no strength at all. So why it contain parry striketrough for 3rd set bonus? Did person responcible for stat mixing doesn't know about DoK mechanic, or whole class will be changed beyond recognition in two weeks?
Now Beastlord is more or less useless for both healer and mdd DoK, because healer have more profitable armor sets to mix: Conqueror set (4 piece) and Ruin (2 piece bonus and 3% crit heal on shoulders), or Rare Fortune, or Onslaught when it'll be released.
Just keep in mind, there is 5 healing sets for DoK to mix (Ruin, Conqueror, Beastlord, Rare Fortune and Onslaught) and only one for mdd (not counting previous step sets). Ruin have similar, but less pronounced problem.
Both Ruin and Beastlord have offensive and healing stats, it's like live age of reckoning all over again, with it's strength+crit.heal stats bullshit.
There is two options what can be done:
First - change parry striketrough bonus for Aid-X and make this set profitable for healers (and change strength for willpower on Ruin maybe, since it already healer set).
Second - make more then one damage dealer armor set for DoKs and change willpower for strength (on armor and set bonus) and also change last bonus Guidance 2 for Caretaker, so this way mdd DoKs gonna get something to mix with Dominator set or even a whole armor set to wear.
Stop mdd healers abuse movement™: DoK already can simultaneously heal and kill, don't change class, just give us something to wear.
P.S. IMO parry striketrough is for newbs, people who know how to play DoK can move around target without a problems even with snare on them, so parry isn't bothering them.
Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
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- Collateral
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Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
What you don't seem to realise, is that you can have a 3p bonus without putting on any armour pieces. Beastlord set has a cloak (that also has a talisman slot, which is very nice), accessory and pocket item pieces. These 3 will give you a bonus. So even it seems to be a healing set, you can use it as a dps without losing other set bonuses, and getting the extra strike through.
Bl is one of the most powerful sets right now, cuz of how set pieces were designed, especially the pocket item.
Bl is one of the most powerful sets right now, cuz of how set pieces were designed, especially the pocket item.
- peterthepan3
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Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
It's good for 3piece weaponskill, but the abundance of willpower is still meh; having to deal with the fact that certain pieces have willpower - just to get a set bonus - is a bit counterproductive, though given BL's relative ease to acquire, I suppose it shouldn't be too powerful. It's a very weird set that doesn't excel at either DPS or healing (possibly as per its design? Yet it only seems to be a thing for various healer classes).
Also - parry strikethrough is good against all those pesty 2h tanks (as a DOK, you probably come up against them more than a WP does against destro tanks)
Also - parry strikethrough is good against all those pesty 2h tanks (as a DOK, you probably come up against them more than a WP does against destro tanks)

Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
No, it's not.Collateral wrote:What you don't seem to realise, is that you can have a 3p bonus without putting on any armour pieces. Beastlord set has a cloak (that also has a talisman slot, which is very nice), accessory and pocket item pieces. These 3 will give you a bonus. So even it seems to be a healing set, you can use it as a dps without losing other set bonuses, and getting the extra strike through.
Bl is one of the most powerful sets right now, cuz of how set pieces were designed, especially the pocket item.
You see, there is no offensive stats on those items, there is willpower, wounds and such things. No strength. No melee crit. There is big amount of weaponskill, but not enough to fill the hole. It is worthless for mdd. Dok have only option of damage sets or healer sets, when tanks have damage and defend sets to choose or mix. If Beastlord set was at least def. set, it would be exeptable. You say Beastlord one of the most powerful sets, huh? For DoKs it one of the most useless. It much beter to use 2 piece of mercenary set or even influence rewards instead of beastlord. Put cloak with slot but without main offencive stat (strength) is pointless, you lost more then get, because set ring have much willpower and only 8 wounds. What is the point to put set ring with only 8 stat? It mush beter to use 20+20 green ring, with green cloak it will be about the same amount of usefull offencive stats. And willpower is not a useful bonus. Melee DoKs just don't use it to heal, they don't need it at all.
Healers also don't need weaponskill or parry striketrough, so Beastlord is useless for them too.
- roadkillrobin
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Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
Its meant to be used for Hybrid Plastyle.
Dark Rites/Sacrifice build. The Striketrough helps make Transfer Essence not get parried and WS sligtly helps you melee heal of tanks.
Dark Rites/Sacrifice build. The Striketrough helps make Transfer Essence not get parried and WS sligtly helps you melee heal of tanks.

Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
Cloak and ring of genesis will give more profit (if ring is 36mp or 24wou+24str), so it useless to use beastlord even as accessory set.peterthepan3 wrote:It's good for 3piece weaponskill, but the abundance of willpower is still meh; having to deal with the fact that certain pieces have willpower - just to get a set bonus - is a bit counterproductive, though given BL's relative ease to acquire, I suppose it shouldn't be too powerful. It's a very weird set that doesn't excel at either DPS or healing (possibly as per its design? Yet it only seems to be a thing for various healer classes).
Also - parry strikethrough is good against all those pesty 2h tanks (as a DOK, you probably come up against them more than a WP does against destro tanks)
Beastlord contain: 13 ws on ring, 32 wounds on cloak and 21 strength you can put in hole, 58 ws bonus, so there is 124 stats in total, but only 21 of them is strength.
Genesis contain: 28 str on cloak, 36 or 48 stats on one ring, 37 str bonus. So there is 113 useful stats in total and 89 of them is strength. Feel the difference.
More like unplayable style which is worse than 3+2 tree. Melee DoKs already nobody want to play with, lets make them use unprofitable builds that make less benefit, instead of make good better build, that can, be more comfortable to play with.roadkillrobin wrote:Its meant to be used for Hybrid Plastyle.
Dark Rites/Sacrifice build. The Striketrough helps make Transfer Essence not get parried and WS sligtly helps you melee heal of tanks.
I used to gain only WS stat on live, Im even wrote 28 pages of one build melee DoK manual. And in it I wrote, that there is no point to gain Weapon Skill before Invader armor set reached - only strength before it. And it is valid now, WS not so helpful when you don't have good damage or if you loose good damage for more parry and armor penetration.
Haven't played for 10 months, enter the game yesterday for one day to make guide for this beastlord and help friends.
This is results of one scenario. I show it so nobody may think, that i don't know something about DoK or not play enough on it (or play poorly). I remember wery well how to play and what DoK should do. So i know what this class need, and it is not rebalance, it is more than one mdd armor set.

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- roadkillrobin
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Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
I play Hybrid spec 90% of the time. But im not using BL set coz I don't have it. Should work in tgeory tbh.

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Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
It will work, but it will be less fun and definetly less effestive.roadkillrobin wrote:I play Hybrid spec 90% of the time. But im not using BL set coz I don't have it. Should work in tgeory tbh.
- peterthepan3
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Re: Why Beastlord for DoK have parry striketrough?
I agree about genesis and if you have genesis then lucky for you 


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