Not healing is the same as not DPSing

[shoxation]

So I met this so called "healer" in SC today, his name is "Don't name and shame on the forums", after many defeats with him in our team, I watched closely what he was doing, turns out he was using his strong heals only on 1 guy (slayer) who was his duo mate probably, and using aoe heals for the rest (which are only used to keep the scores high in case I confront him, they keep nobody alive). Even when his slayer dude was over 80%hp he was spamming heals at him, no matter what, and leaving the rest die. So I said these exact words "bro, heal the people who are getting hit, not the dude with 80% hp".

His response was "Got you, don't heal you". Then he totally stopped healing me, knowing at that time I was top dmg, top DBs, and basically the one keeping the enemy healer under constant pressure, meaning all their front line is always trying to find a way to get to me, without heals I'm as good as a walking hitbox with no damage, having to constantly leave the fight to regen due to my backlashes etc, or simply die, slowly, to tanks if they catch me. He stopped healing me on purpose, we started losing, and by a miracle another healer joined our SC, late, but saved the game and helped us push back.

My question is directed to the community as well as the GMs, is this attitude not one that should be answered with a ban or at least a warning of a few days? Because in my book, a healer who refuses to heal == a dps who refuses to deal damage == afk player in sc.
If a person decides to stop doing their job in SC, and gets no punishment for it, what is to prevent everyone else from going afk everytime somebody makes a comment about them. There needs to be a system, rules about this, and consequences.

I personally have no problem if a person ever tells me "hey BW, you're targetting the wrong players", or "your damage is crap", I won't mind it coz I know what I'm doing, and if they become annoying, i'll ignore them BUT I will keep dealing damage and doing my job. If I go afk because of that then I shouldn't be allowed in SC in the first place...

[peterthepan3]

If your criteria for banning someone is them not performing their job as per their archetype, then I think 90% of the server would qualify for being banned =D. You'll always encounter this behaviour from stubborn players, just ignore it and find a dedicated healer if it's that much of an issue. Calling for such people to be banned is a bit drastic...

[Telen]

When you play a class that kills itself without heals its usually best to not upset the healer

[Luuca]

Solo Queuing is hard.

[Loans]

Bw + pocket healer can makes the difference in pug sc

[dansari]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[Darrell]

I don't think there was any need to call the healer out specifically by name in this case. If you were upset with the healer, there are more beneficial options than looking to start a witch hunt on the forums.

What I find curious is when you mention that the healer was "only using his strong heal on his Slayer friend" and everyone else only got "AoE heals intended to keep his score high in case you confronted him". You then go on to say that after you mentioned the possibility of him using heals on people other than his Slayer friend, he stopped healing you. How did he stop healing you if you were only receiving AoE heals? Did he kick you from the party to another one so his AoE heals couldn't affect you? Or was he specifically staying out of range of healing range of you while healing everyone else? I've never played a healer to high rank, so maybe there is some kind of way you can dictate who is affected by your heals?

It's frustrating when players aren't doing their jobs. DPS not assisting off one target, healers not healing, tanks not guarding, people handing out free CC immunity. It sucks. But that's also part of the risk we take when we queue into a pug group. Everthing is just sort of 'come as you are'. Sometimes you get good tanks, good heals, and good DPS. Sometimes you get 1 or 2 of those but not the other. Sometimes everyone is playing like baddies. In the future, if you run into a similar situation, I suggest taking a more polite tone with your requests. Something like "Hey, thanks for healing us. Could you please toss a few extra heals my way? Trying to put a lot of pressure on the healer and Combustin is kicking my ass." Please and thank you go a long way.

I further do not believe that refusing to heal one person in particular should be considered an actionable offense. It might be a bit of a **** move, but a player is not contractually bound to put 110% effort into everyone on the team. Especially when you're already playing a class that's in short supply (healer), that tends to be one of the two careers who catch the blame when things go bad (healer and tank), and now has to listen to a backseat healer in a scenario that is heavily reliant upon your healing to survive. Healing is a rough job. While refusing to heal one teammate for being bossy isn't particularly helpful to the team, I can understand that vengeful motivation.

If the line to being banned is drawn at "Players who do not optimally play their class, or do not play their class well" then I'm in bad trouble.

TL;DR: Don't piss off the healer. Say please and thank you when you want to make requests of others. Not healing one guy (which I am still confused on since you claim he was never really healing you anyway) is not the same as AFKing in a scenario. Playing the game in a way you disagree with is still playing the game. Saying the word "bro" can come across as passive-aggressive and may lead to you being blacklisted from heals.

[Valfaros]

So I met this so called "healer" in SC today, his name is "no name shame on the forums...", after many defeats with him in our team, I watched closely what he was doing, turns out he was using his strong heals only on 1 guy (slayer) who was his duo mate probably, and using aoe heals for the rest (which are only used to keep the scores high in case I confront him, they keep nobody alive). Even when his slayer dude was over 80%hp he was spamming heals at him, no matter what, and leaving the rest die. So I said these exact words "bro, heal the people who are getting hit, not the dude with 80% hp".

His response was "Got you, don't heal you". Then he totally stopped healing me, knowing at that time I was top dmg, top DBs, and basically the one keeping the enemy healer under constant pressure, meaning all their front line is always trying to find a way to get to me, without heals I'm as good as a walking hitbox with no damage, having to constantly leave the fight to regen due to my backlashes etc, or simply die, slowly, to tanks if they catch me. He stopped healing me on purpose, we started losing, and by a miracle another healer joined our SC, late, but saved the game and helped us push back.

My question is directed to the community as well as the GMs, is this attitude not one that should be answered with a ban or at least a warning of a few days? Because in my book, a healer who refuses to heal == a dps who refuses to deal damage == afk player in sc.
If a person decides to stop doing their job in SC, and gets no punishment for it, what is to prevent everyone else from going afk everytime somebody makes a comment about them. There needs to be a system, rules about this, and consequences.

Honestly you got what you deserve.

If someone thinks he can flame me for not only healing him / playing extra attention to my mate then I'd ignore him aswell. Better thank him for not going further and intentionally rez you into the enemy train. Wanna know what I think you are: A so called entitled dps who starts a post with like: "OH I'm top db and top dps so I have a right to flame."

Would it be better if he paid extra attention to everyone instead of only his mate. Certainly correct in premades but not always true esp. in Pug sc's where some players are just to afraid to even fight and just stand back and let them get damaged/killed.

So you play BW then group heal should in most cases cover your self dmg if you don't stand compleatly wrong. If you stand compleatly wrong then you are dead without a guard anyway. No reason to waste heal on somebody who doesn't know about propper positioning. From reading your poste you seem to lack positioning since it's fairly easy to not get catched by the meele train.

A ban for that really? He is not afk he is ignoring someone trying to flame him sounds good to me.

[NoRKaLKiLLa]

If you don't like your teammates you've been assigned, switch teams or make a new team :^)

[catholicism198]

If you want heals- roll a healer. Otherwise be grateful for what you get.
People rarely play the objective, so I rarely heal- I rather go fluff damage.