Order right now, 11:55pm Pacific time

[Duukar]

You have a Fort thats 55 Order and 5 Destro.

You have SCs going your way 500-100.

The lakes have 1-9 players for Destro in all open zones.

Maybe if you 3v1 me dont spam Laugh over my body??

You do realize that if there is no one to kill you dont have a game to play right????

Oh wait PvDoor for the win...

[tvbrowntown]

200 people online, 60% of that are order.

ebb and flow baybeeeee

[Sofong]

its been like this for a very long time at least 2yrs. i doubt it will change in a short while.

[Paxsanarion]

Try it ...when you are playing Order...and 800 are online 60 % destro....fun times

[Akalukz]

There is a bit of the population shift, but it doesn't replace the fact that the end game is broken (forts)

[Detangler]

What happened to PvDoor giving no rewards? I specifically remember years ago getting a system message stating that attacking a keep will give no rewards or zone flip credit to ANYONE. Its time to reinstate that or raise the threshold for it to kick in. Make people actually fight each other in this game again.

Also, to the OP - I'm not sure what game you were playing, I was doing scenarios from like 9:30 to 10:30 PST last night and there was definitely no Order domination going on...

[DirkDaring]

You have a Fort thats 55 Order and 5 Destro.

You have SCs going your way 500-100.

The lakes have 1-9 players for Destro in all open zones.

Maybe if you 3v1 me dont spam Laugh over my body??

You do realize that if there is no one to kill you dont have a game to play right????

Oh wait PvDoor for the win...

55 order vs 5 Dest are low numbers, From Jan 2016 through most of 2019 Dest dominated the server back then, Order rarely won , and most of the time it was Dest that carried Order to city, and Forts, or it was Dest players playing their Order toons to push city, then logging back on Dest to farm order in city.

I played Order back then Jan 2016- 2019, I couldn`t see playing Dest to steamroll Order, however back then even though Order lost most of the time, the numbers were good on both sides most of the time.

I took a break for about 3 years, came back 4 weeks ago, the first two weeks back I tried playing my order toons, most of them were 70-80+ back in 2019 and only needed 1 or 2 pieces to finish their Armor sets, but I couldn't see a reason to play Order when we were just zerging down pve keeps and Forts during NA prime.

during that 2 week period, the only time I saw good keeps forts was during EU time zone, While in Order NA prime it was empty keep takes, or less then 10 defenders vs 75 + order. I saw 6 fort takes during NA prime, in those two weeks, that had 125 + order vs 3 to 10 dest trying to defend the fort.

I always left and didn't even bother going to the keeps or forts, I can`t see playing a RvR game, just to PVE to victory, and when I would point this out, about how can it be fun to have no one to fight, the response was doesn`t matter as long as we are getting crests we are winning, and getting crests is what matters.

I will no longer play Order, what`s the point, if all they are doing is PVE , there are a lot of games to play PVE, but only a handful to play RvR , if this is the mentality, I rerolled Dest to atleast try and help, however if nothing really changes in terms of population, balance, or mentality , most likely I'll go back to what I ve been doing the last 3 years, as playing in NA prime is not worth even playing.

[Detangler]

You have a Fort thats 55 Order and 5 Destro.

You have SCs going your way 500-100.

The lakes have 1-9 players for Destro in all open zones.

Maybe if you 3v1 me dont spam Laugh over my body??

You do realize that if there is no one to kill you dont have a game to play right????

Oh wait PvDoor for the win...

55 order vs 5 Dest are low numbers, From Jan 2016 through most of 2019 Dest dominated the server back then, Order rarely won , and most of the time it was Dest that carried Order to city, and Forts, or it was Dest players playing their Order toons to push city, then logging back on Dest to farm order in city.

I played Order back then Jan 2016- 2019, I couldn`t see playing Dest to steamroll Order, however back then even though Order lost most of the time, the numbers were good on both sides most of the time.

I took a break for about 3 years, came back 4 weeks ago, the first two weeks back I tried playing my order toons, most of them were 70-80+ back in 2019 and only needed 1 or 2 pieces to finish their Armor sets, but I couldn't see a reason to play Order when we were just zerging down pve keeps and Forts during NA prime.

during that 2 week period, the only time I saw good keeps forts was during EU time zone, While in Order NA prime it was empty keep takes, or less then 10 defenders vs 75 + order. I saw 6 fort takes during NA prime, in those two weeks, that had 125 + order vs 3 to 10 dest trying to defend the fort.

I always left and didn't even bother going to the keeps or forts, I can`t see playing a RvR game, just to PVE to victory, and when I would point this out, about how can it be fun to have no one to fight, the response was doesn`t matter as long as we are getting crests we are winning, and getting crests is what matters.

I will no longer play Order, what`s the point, if all they are doing is PVE , there are a lot of games to play PVE, but only a handful to play RvR , if this is the mentality, I rerolled Dest to atleast try and help, however if nothing really changes in terms of population, balance, or mentality , most likely I'll go back to what I ve been doing the last 3 years, as playing in NA prime is not worth even playing.

If Order realized that there's way better renown queuing scenarios and similar if not better crest gain vs. Box running simulator and ram clicking, they'd probably queue discordant more. Fine by me, though. I'd rather play engaging content, and I can use the time between scenarios to shoot the schitt with my discordant buddy, guild, or make the general chat fun again.

[oaliaen]

Fact is the game is very late when we talk about balance, and balance brings ppl to play the game.

[SepticDisaster]

The game is becoming borderline unplayable during NA. I wish that wasn't the case but I'm currently in the market for another hobby in the evenings, this is no longer cutting it...