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Gerv
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What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#1 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:09 am

Hey everyone

I cant log in at the moment, but I see threads like "thanks for killing rvr / order cant do anything". What exactly happened that caused the system to see to be in this position?

I dont have the time availability to log in and ask so I am posting here in between travels.

Was it a mechanic, is it the whole "i dont like groups so I wont group up", or is it something else?

Cheers for the insight.
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#2 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:11 am

About 65-70% of population was destro the whole night after patch.
A fellow player said how they capped 18 keeps in a row, no defense.
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Gerv
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#3 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:21 am

So it was just one night and people are calling it a storm and wanting instant changes?

If that is the case, then I have nothing to worry about, things haven not changed.

Unless it is something else as well?
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#4 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:23 am

Nope, not for now. Thing is that now you get medals for your rvr sets, which were enabled, and this way destro will have full sets in no time. So that got a lot of people really mad.
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#5 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:35 am

You ignore or don't know that Devastator has wrong level requirements. The full set originally needs rank 29.
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#6 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:51 am

Sulorie wrote:You ignore or don't know that Devastator has wrong level requirements. The full set originally needs rank 29.
That's not the point. The point is 70-75% of the player base has swarmed to one faction to farm the keeps. Expecting 25-30% of the population to defend against that is retarded. So ultimately you have up to 75% of the players playing RvE to farm RvR gear to then roll into SCs against a team with zero RvR gear. :roll:

This update on top of the new RvR ruleset was ill conceived. :/ With the keeps resetting every 15mins Destro are just switching zones to pick up their medallions and moving to the next. This will only stop when they no longer need medallions.

If the keeps stayed the same until taken by the opposing faction then you wouldn't see a player population with 75% Destro when they have all the keeps. Order can't take them so Destro can't take them back. They'd be forced to switch back to Order characters just to actually do something.

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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#7 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:57 am

You don't see it? Destro farms keeps for currency to buy the new rvr sets, while the sets shouldn't be usable at all.
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#8 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:00 am

Whether they used to be usable at this level or not is now irrelevant. They ARE usable (at least I see quite a few with several pieces already) and so they are being farmed unhindered.

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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#9 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:21 am

dkabib wrote:About 65-70% of population was destro the whole night after patch.
A fellow player said how they capped 18 keeps in a row, no defense.
Most of these keeps Order couldn't get even remotely close to, with several warbands of destro and the backdoors not working. That along with the severe population differences, order just gets stormrolled with no chance whatsoever. So now instead of what was referred to as " keep swapping with some rvr" between destro and order, it's just destro PVE keep taking. One of my guildies screenshotted a keep take that took less than 2 mins start to finish. Zones are flipping in 10 mins.

So basically destro is getting totally geared up, I know of many who now have over 100 medallions, while order have nothing. To top it off, because of this, destro aren't even queueing up for scenarios as they want these medallions, I waited well over an hour for a pop that never came. Order has nothing to do, which just compounds the problem of them logging out and /or going to destro side.. or in also many cases, rolling new T1 chars just for something to do.

I know i did have one group and we tried to slow down the keep takes by scooping up some BO's, however the timer is now 5 mins, so every time by about 3.5 mins, a warband of destro would come down upon us, take the BO back, and steamroll us.

It's something order is not going to be able to recover from now easily as destro will be super geared up well Order is lagged far behind. It's pretty bad. Never in the history of even live War have I seen the situation this bad. It's really too bad, I was excited for this patch, but sadly it didn't work well. I do have faith that developers will fix it, but by then, destro will probably be fully geared.
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Re: What "killed" the RvR for Order

Post#10 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:31 am

RoR is going to take a population hit from this one, funny how not a single dev has shown up all day to fix this pandemic.

What's even more funny is just a week ago people were crying about Keep Trading, but this is much worse.

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