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Brennika
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Reduce BW Heal Debuff from 30s to 10s

Post#1 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:06 pm

Problem: Current BW heal debuff has a 10s up time and 30s c/d, a 66%/20s downtime, out of line from every other specced 50% heal debuff.
Reasoning: 1) the 30 second cooldown lines up with most immunity timers, making it that gaining traction can just be CC'd off
2) unable to apply pressure vs detaunts, which have a 100% uptime
3) Any kill attempt lasting longer than the 10s uptime causes a 20 second reset period, giving targets too much of a recovery chance to be effective.
Follow-on problems: Heal debuffs are a must in scenario play against any organized group. With the BWs being ineffective due to only a 33% uptime vs 100% on other classes, it limits order DPS compositions. For "core" dps classes, current classes that have a 100% uptime 50% heal debuff are:
Order: Slayer, WH, SW
Destro: Choppa, Mara, WE, SH.

Recommended solution: reduce the BW's heal debuff to 10seconds, like all other 50% heal debuffs.

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Avernus
Posts: 448

Re: Reduce BW Heal Debuff from 30s to 10s

Post#2 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:45 pm

Brennika wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:06 pm Problem: Current BW heal debuff has a 10s up time and 30s c/d, a 66%/20s downtime, out of line from every other specced 50% heal debuff.
Reasoning: 1) the 30 second cooldown lines up with most immunity timers, making it that gaining traction can just be CC'd off
2) unable to apply pressure vs detaunts, which have a 100% uptime
3) Any kill attempt lasting longer than the 10s uptime causes a 20 second reset period, giving targets too much of a recovery chance to be effective.
Follow-on problems: Heal debuffs are a must in scenario play against any organized group. With the BWs being ineffective due to only a 33% uptime vs 100% on other classes, it limits order DPS compositions. For "core" dps classes, current classes that have a 100% uptime 50% heal debuff are:
Order: Slayer, WH, SW
Destro: Choppa, Mara, WE, SH.

Recommended solution: reduce the BW's heal debuff to 10seconds, like all other 50% heal debuffs.
And don't forget to reduce its range to 65ft because devs are sure that being available to the pull (and quite close to the melee is a must for rdps healing debuff; too close, in fact...)

Unless you are SH, of course, its totally okay for SH to have an option to apply healing debuff from safe distance.

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Sever1n
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Re: Reduce BW Heal Debuff from 30s to 10s

Post#3 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:58 pm

That 30 sec thing indeed looks weird in age of disrupts. But on other hand sork dont have even that.
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Alubert
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Re: Reduce BW Heal Debuff from 30s to 10s

Post#4 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 6:46 pm

Anything that help magic casters is good at current game state but how about sorc?
Sorc don’t have hd at all.
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