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bwdaWAR
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#11 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:35 pm

I think the least problematic way to manage the existing money amounts without hurting casual players (who don't have a lot of money/gear or the time to grind for them), possibly to the point of making the game nearly unplayable, is what someone suggested in another thread: introducing purely cosmetic goods, preferably consumable, that cost a lot of money. Like the recently added Slaanesh Pink dye, which costs 10g each - the price of the best mount currently available. Just think of how many people started grinding NPCs when the Bestiary unlocks were added - the interest for what is basically expensive bling is certainly there, and this could mean a huge money sink without actually changing one's power and options in RvR/PvE. Trophies, gear with no stats to use as alternate appearance, special dyes, pets, visual effect items like those fireworks, maybe even special appearance mounts or titles.

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Nameless
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#12 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:26 pm

the thing is that 15-20 gold is not the real price of 20+ish talis since you put much more effort or/and money to make them. Ppl kinda overreacted by the prices of talis since talis are one-way buy so when there are enough talis on the market the prices will drop by itselves. Pots are different story since they are expendable but moaning about talis is pretty strange.

On live the purple talis were cheaper than green pots so figure it out
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Mendozza
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#13 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:35 pm

Farm Saphery Elites.
Hour of solo farm 1-1.5 full loaded inventory of 29 greens.
3 full bags are going for around 45-50g.
You can get it with geared wp or engi easily in about 30-40 min.
With good chances you may have 100g\hour.
Also Blue\Epic talies frags.

With fragments drop you can have 400-500 g\day.
"I dont wanna grind, but i wanna have gold." Not going to happand.
But why bother getting professions? while i can whine on forum.
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Gobtar
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#14 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:03 pm

Nameless wrote:the thing is that 15-20 gold is not the real price of 20+ish talis since you put much more effort or/and money to make them. Ppl kinda overreacted by the prices of talis since talis are one-way buy so when there are enough talis on the market the prices will drop by itselves. Pots are different story since they are expendable but moaning about talis is pretty strange.

On live the purple talis were cheaper than green pots so figure it out
First of all there is no "real price" for an item, it's established by economic factors. Currenly, there is a high demand for talisman's so it is a sellers market, On live everyone had all the talismans they ever needed, so tali makers didn't see the profit in continuing this trade, only alts and new players would need talismans (high supply+low demand= low cost). Everyone needs pots, its a safe market, but its also an easier market to get into, Potions will always have a stable price, and that will wave or diminish depending on the competition (Average supply + High demand= High cost).

If you want to see the price of talismans and potions go down, you need to increase the supply of which these things enter the market, everyone will try to bid with each other to get the lowest price and there will be too many sellers for buy-outs to happen. There is also ZERO opportunity cost, again another problem with not having buying power on money, I have already mentioned this, but it's warrants repeating, we need more things to buy.
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#15 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:28 am

FLIGHT COSTS.

TOO MUCH.

REDUCE TO 10S ON T3.

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greenstoned
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#16 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:25 am

i'd like an AH like in the secret world... limited time on the auction, worst case a week, and 10% deposit on the asked price for an item, refunded on sale but not on cancelation or expiration of the auction
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Joshwa70
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#17 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:01 am

Wait.. so if you are broke and you get a primo item... you can't sell it because you don't have any money? How very liberal of you.

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ropuch
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#18 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:37 am

What Mendozza said. It's like 30-40 minute a day. And you can still do this between SC instead of idling in the city / spaming advice. Simply as that.
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Landaren
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#19 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:47 am

Vdova wrote:Even I have 50-100g on each of my character I have no issue with full gold wipe. Prices for blue/purple talis and blue/purple items will go back to norm, because since T3 is out, prices of talis are multipled by 8 - 10x. For example when T3 was out for a week or 2, I have bought purple 20 strenght talisman for 15-20g each. Now price for the same talisman doesnt goes under 150g which is insane.

If major bugs which allowed gold/item dupe is gone, I would welcome gold wipe with open arms.
The price of talis has very little to do with inflation and everything to do with supply and demand.

on order about 2 months ago I started making armor potions because people said they were to expensive. So I set a price and always posted what I made for that price. After a month of hammering the AH with potions we have finally brought the price down to 8-10 gold for a stack of 20.

If more people would get out there and farm fragments and craft talis the price would fall.

Instead of asking for a gold wipe we should consider asking for an increase in fragment drop rates, that would off set the steady rise of tali prices.

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Asherdoom
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Re: The problem with gold...

Post#20 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:51 am

what about a gold wipe when t4 will be released? not items, just gold. leave all players with 20 golds each maximum?
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