Pug Only Scenario

[CaseyJones]

You can keep mocking the idea but it's kinda obvious that you're among a minority which happened to be more vocal about their POV on the forums.

Most people play will keep playing in random groups and they should have an opportunity to progress even if it's done at a significantly slower rate. I'm absolutely okay with getting reduced rewards.

I've been leveling a few toons in T1-T2 outside of server prime time recently and I've noticed that there are barely any premades. It's mostly pug vs pug - we win some, we lose some, it's pretty equal for both sides and it's fun at the same time.

Doesn't look like people bother making premades before endgame which kinda leads to the point that it's mostly done to farm and progress faster. Don't get me wrong — obviously a lot of people simply play with friends but I think the majority just picks the most powerful group setup to maximize and speed up the rewards.

And pve is a completely different story.

[Bozzax]

9/10 premades you see are 35/40 with boundless so no rewards. Just think about it for a few seconds.

[Tiggo]

order has like 3 serious premades (right now prbly only 1 playing at all) destro like 4 serious premades (none playing right now i think). most are just casual random guild groups where you THINK they are serious premades.

did you ever think about its just you and your comrades playing bad and that is why you lose so often?

all this whining jesus...

[CaseyJones]

I haven't noticed any whining. Did I say i'm not making any progress and not having fun? I usually play solo but I'm doing fine. We're all playing the game and having fun but some of us want to see some tweaks and that's it.

[peterthepan3]

Misconception that premades are made to farm pugs needs to be done away with. Very insulting. Pugs should have their own scenario or two, just with reduced rewards. Would be good.

[roadkillrobin]

I don't like the idea of pug only or premade only scenarios. Everyone have the same oportunity. Form a group and que or roll the dice with pugs. The solo que mechanic could be alot better and use a role check and place people in the groups baced on rolls they pick. The big problem with scenarios and the reason spawn camping even take place is coz the scenario objectives means nothing and loosing have no consequences. You even get consolation prize in form of emblems. Theres also nothing that inspire you to win as Scenarios have no effect on your realm in the big picture. They need to intergrate scenarios in the campain and the need to make scenario objectives mather.

[peterthepan3]

Agree with scenarios integrated into the campaign. 6mans would be called upon by the WB guilds to help claim victory - akin to residents of Gotham calling upon Batman to help them!
I jest of course! But good idea nonetheless.

[Scrilian]

it's kinda obvious that you're among a minority which happened to be more vocal about their POV on the forums.

Quite the opposite, in fact that it's the come-and-go "majority representatives" who are the most vocal here, demanding usually along the lines of "We can't be bothered with X and Z so make Y easier now" - and when met with criticism of "That will ruin X, make Z pointless, Y should not be easier because A, B and C" you guys always resort to ad hominem and "mah majority and inclusive fairness" arguments, implying that you somehow possess the moral high ground.

Doesn't look like people bother making premades

So they shouldn't have a say on the matter, as simple as that.
Unless someone openly admits that they purposely handicap themselves by staying away from guilds, /5 groups, premades and alliance warbands - and notice something that is relevant and will not affect none of the above in a negative way - then their ideas and suggestions should be heard.
Promoting pugging is none of that, especially when it separates the playerbase into the cancer-queue and establishes the norm of antisocial ~30min-a-day playstyle, that takes away from the very core social aspect of an MMO.

[Tesq]

there is no need to separate queue , mixed queue are k, just make server automatically put pugs in sc every x loose at rotation to give pugs a pause from premade.

[Epo]

Misconception that premades are made to farm pugs needs to be done away with. Very insulting. Pugs should have their own scenario or two, just with reduced rewards. Would be good.

I'm sorry, I really don't wanna start an argument over this again, but why less rewards? Nobody is entitled to less or more rewards than another person because of their preference on playstyle. I'm genuinely curious as to why you think this.