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eisenhans
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#61 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:15 pm

Just mirror DoK's and WP's prayers/covenants and be done with it. WP's prayers were pretty much useless anyway and much weaker than the covenants.

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Azarael
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#62 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:16 pm

Game balance is outside the scope of this thread.

herrmarek
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#63 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:15 pm

Graceful Strike not allways moves stance to Improved (SM)

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Azarael
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#64 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:18 pm

Issue is not unique to Graceful Strike and occurs because the client played the animation but the server did not register a hit. Check combat log.

Zxul
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#65 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:21 pm

On the side note, not sure if posted, but back on live if you started a ranged channel, it would keep channeling even if opponent had run out of range.

Part of what made abilities like zealot Chaotic Agitation so effective.
"Can we play with him, master? He seems so unhappy. Let us help him smile. Please? Or at least let us carve one on his face when he stops screaming."

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Azarael
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#66 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:23 pm

Thanks, will update ability notes. Ranged channels do stop if LOS is broken, though, right?

herrmarek
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#67 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:30 pm

i didnt checked, but i ..take note(E. is not my language :) ), that Graceful Strike did damage (i see DoT) and didnt move stance

Zxul
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#68 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:00 pm

Azarael wrote:Thanks, will update ability notes. Ranged channels do stop if LOS is broken, though, right?
Hmm don't really remember.

On my dps zealot one of my favored uses of Chaotic Agitation (zealot channeled AoE) was to target with it an order toon which got out of order mob, then as he run back into the mob to have the Chaotic Agitation hit the rest of them, well out of base 80 f range. Might have used it similarly to hit players out of LoS, behind castle walls and such, not 100% sure.

I do remember casting something on order toons during keep attacks which would hit others as that toon run back inside keep, out of LoS, not sure what it was though or on which class. Might be Chaotic Agitation.
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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#69 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:29 pm

yea i checked it, ensorelled blow have 100% fruitfulness of moving stance to Improved
other strikes no
(SM)
interesting is, that this problem is from normal to improved stance, never from improved to perfect stance

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Re: Current State of Classes and Abilities (PvP)

Post#70 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:33 pm

I play SM and the only time I see a stance change fail off Gryphon's Lash is when the attack doesn't actually hit on the server.

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