Pug Only Scenario

[peterthepan3]

Good point concerning kill quests! Very true.

[bloodi]

Bloodi: id appreciate it if you stopped with the indirect personal insults to the premade community. It's tiring.

What?

[peterthepan3]

Sorry man but i feel the 'some idiots' thing is aimed at certain premades and feel it is unjustified. If I'm wrong I apologise.

Ot: give pugs scens!

[magicthighs]

Peterthepan3, did you miss this post?

http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 30#p140472

Again, I strongly suggest you do not post in the thread anymore.

[Bozzax]

Seriously? why? what?

[Arbich]

And re some classes not being viable in 6v6? That is true, but is a separate issue altogether and doesn't negate nor take away from the points that have been made concerning higher caliber pvp/longer queues/people wanting everything for minimum effort.

There will never be (and should never be) a balance that all classes can perform equally in 6vs6, so this isn´t totally seperate, when you talk about different rewards for premades and Pugs.

About your reasons why premades should get higher rewards: Except for team synergy developed, all these things are required in pug vs. pug, too. I know most pug-scenarios work like: half the people hit the first target they see (a def-tank), some seperate from group because they think they can win the scenario alone and 2 or 3 blame the others for their lack of skill and go afk. But the Pugs that consider your advice (knowledge of enemy, anticipate and counter) have high chances to win the scenario.
and teamspeak makes playing easier, not harder.

about the maximum reward for minimum effort attitude, I agree. Thats the reason (and I like going solo in sc, because of the unpredictable results), I am rather against a pug vs pug only sc.

@magicthings
I don´t understand why a player that make a valuable contribution to this discussion, should not be allowed to post in this thread.
Only because you say so? I see no insults from peterthepan3 in his last posts.

[catholicism198]

All of you pug vs premades are basically acknowledging that there is a problem... ...but you want to keep it that way because you can easily face-roll and spawn camp to your heart's content.
As for the reduced reward...using your logic, in a premade vs pug, the premade should get 1-2 medallions if they win, because it's an easy win for them, and 6-1,000,000 medallions for the pug because it's challenging- if not impossible.

Spawn camps are boring- and when that happens (either side) I just bio-break- come to the forums- etc. there's no point in even bothering.

[Bozzax]

What about 2x random vs premade for SCs?

Giving randoms numerical advantage imo would make SCs harder for premeds and improve the odds for the randoms winning. Seems like a win win to me.

[Sighan]

Apparently there's been quite a discussion while I was away. I think the easiest way to fix this would be to fix the queues countless times I have seen battle for Praag with 2 pugs and 1 premade on each side.

Open 1 cw for the premades and 1 northwatch or whatever for the pugs => fixed. As long as this is not happening, stating that pugs and premades are already separated by queue is simply not true.

[Sighan]

Apparently there's been quite a discussion while I was away. I think the easiest way to fix this would be to fix the queues countless times I have seen battle for Praag with 2 pugs and 1 premade on each side.

Open 1 cw for the premades and 1 northwatch or whatever for the pugs => fixed. As long as this is not happening, stating that pugs and premades are already separated by queue is simply not true.