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roadkillrobin
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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#171 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:12 am

catholicism198 wrote:All of you pug vs premades are basically acknowledging that there is a problem... ...but you want to keep it that way because you can easily face-roll and spawn camp to your heart's content.
As for the reduced reward...using your logic, in a premade vs pug, the premade should get 1-2 medallions if they win, because it's an easy win for them, and 6-1,000,000 medallions for the pug because it's challenging- if not impossible.

Spawn camps are boring- and when that happens (either side) I just bio-break- come to the forums- etc. there's no point in even bothering.
Easy fix would be to remove all kinda rewards and score for kills in SC and make it about the objectives. And give xp and renown at end based on score. No more reason for pug farming and would make the scenarios much less linear.
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Scrilian
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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#172 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:18 am

Separation, segmentation and segregation of the playerbase will surely fix everything!
Not only is there a serious lack of the best of the best premades in RvR, that are just afk in warcamps waiting for SC pops - but now that should be the case for solo players as well!

Of course everything should be catered to the lowest common denominator possible because it's what the majority wants. And what do we know about the majority - that it's always right and its demands are of the highest priority, regardless how may they impact more often then not niche and unique games.
It's 2016, god damn it! We don't need things like realm pride, guilds, immersive gameplay for hours with your new online friends and etc., because even basic communication with other players is overrated in this day and age - its you and your lonely 30min play sessions matter the most!

It is your right to demand it! And not even that - everything should fit to please your brief playtime as much as possible. How dare anyone post a hint that the game already knows what's best for itself and you in it - and god forbid the game teaches you any hard lessons about your lack of will to cooperate with other players aside of clicking that Join button, because you just like that are entitled to have fun and equality'n'sh*t!

Anything besides the mindless pugging, that is surely the most balanced and fun way to play possible - is a clear and obvious abuse of game mechanics that should be deal with right away! Once they are gone for good, especially the Antichrist in a form of unfair "premades" - the next thing to be dealt with is the matchmaker, that somehow fills your sc's with dps-healers/tanks or even classes specced in dead-broken trees and you are not able to kick them with a click of a button!

Then and only then the truly balanced and fun sc's going to be, where no one is farming / spawn-camping anyone and magically 50% win/loss ratio appears! First soloQ-only scenario should be the beginning of a new era for RoR with more sc's like that to follow!
Think of it as a first step on the road to separate lakes for LFRvR or Dueling-SCs or player garrison-like housing or even abolishing grouping all together!

It is the right direction because you want it and so you shall have it!
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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#173 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:18 am

catholicism198 wrote:
Spawn camps are boring- and when that happens (either side) I just bio-break- come to the forums- etc. there's no point in even bothering.

thats the attitute ...
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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#174 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:21 am

Scrilian wrote:
Then and only then the truly balanced and fun sc's going to be, where no one is farming / spawn-camping anyone and magically 50% win/loss ratio appears! First soloQ-only scenario should be the beginning of a new era for RoR with more sc's like that to follow!

i like your style ;)

BUT: we need a 100% !!! win ratio for everyone! How to do it: let solo players play against bots but they dont know it! and they win ALL THE TIME! Happy pony pug!
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catholicism198
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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#175 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:31 pm

Scrilian wrote:Premade biased stuff
All people are asking for is one pug SC, premades already have the option to do so, but most don't seem to want a challenge or a balance playing field- so why not one for pugs?

Play Destro- queue solo- get matched against a ts/vent premade and then come back and tell me it's just as fun- that you feel great playing for 1 hour and only getting 0-1 emblems per match.

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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#176 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:55 pm

catholicism198 wrote:Play Destro- queue solo- get matched against a ts/vent premade and then come back and tell me it's just as fun- that you feel great playing for 1 hour and only getting 0-1 emblems per match.
During my playtime, this statement cuts both ways. Solo Q on either side and you will run up against premades.

There is nothing wrong with that. Get some friends and group up. I group with friends when they are online and I solo Q when they are not and I adjust my play accordingly.
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Scrilian
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Re: Pug Only Scenario

Post#177 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:10 pm

catholicism198 wrote: All people are asking for is one pug SC, premades already have the option to do so, but most don't seem to want a challenge or a balance playing field- so why not one for pugs?

Play Destro- queue solo- get matched against a ts/vent premade and then come back and tell me it's just as fun- that you feel great playing for 1 hour and only getting 0-1 emblems per match.
That's the whole point of it.
The game incentive is that once you are tired of your ass handed to you - you say "Enough" - go out there, look for other people just like you and fight back, make order pay for your grudges ;)
Not the other way around, no safe space for you to hide in pug-only places, only blood and war - and certainly "most" or "pug" have 0 to say in this because ultimately its better for them, you can trust me on this one.
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