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Luth
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#21 » Sun May 15, 2016 12:10 pm

Strykhe wrote:6.7% bonus, when i put or take off my shield. At the moment.
18.9% it's calculate with the "live" formule, link here, in page 1.

This formule for calculate bonus block according by blockrate come to a old conversation and it's true on live serveur.



If we would same game, we need same stat :)
Tank are more resistant in RvR and moral become really useful, but hit in back, and block / parade / etc.. are useless.
You could start to post the source of your formula. I guess you have it from someone else.
In case you gathered the info by yourself on the mythic server, you could start to post your data (DPS tests etc.), so that others can check it.
Atm you basically just say "My formula is correct, yours is wrong"; No offense, but no one will change the combat calcs because of some unknown "conversation" between a bunch of unknown people from the "live server".
Please post some hard facts.

Edit: always use .getstats in the chatwindow to get reliable data.

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Strykhe
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#22 » Sun May 15, 2016 12:50 pm

Lileldys wrote:it says 6.7% because the character sheet doesnt work. You DO have 18.9%
Edit: The live formula you have is for PvE.

It's sure ?
If is just that, we'll pretend I didn't say anything ^^

But, a .getstat command give me a same result. He give me a value without a blockrate, yet.
So, if i listen to you, we have no bonus block from blockrate in stat.. And we return at start ^^

Luth
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#23 » Sun May 15, 2016 12:56 pm

.getstats doesn't factor in strength vs block/parry rate calculation; was just a general hint because people often trust the character window.

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Strykhe
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#24 » Sun May 15, 2016 1:31 pm

For the source, we have :

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=965&start=60#p140459

This text :
Genisaurus wrote: The equation is [BlockRating/(playerlevel * 7.5 + 50) * 0.2] = Block Chance.

The other source is a private forum, based on website Curse, at the time of live, and he are down now. In archives on my guild, we have the same formule, for the live :

Block rating of shield / [(level * 7.5 + 50)*0.2*100] = Block %

The *100 isn't really important. It's just for read a result.
For PvE, of course, but the stat display aren't good, in this simple scenario.



So, It would be a display bug in the windows character ? Because it's a calcul strenght vs block is based on this stat..
I understand a little more.

(BlockRating / 925) * 0.2 = Your true Block Rating at level 35.
But, why a blockrating is considered in a calcul who % block are reduced by strenght ?
Isn't a (% block / 1050)*0.2 for know how many block are canceled by strenght ?

lilsabin
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#25 » Sun May 15, 2016 2:33 pm

strenght decrease block rate ?

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Ramasee
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#26 » Sun May 15, 2016 7:51 pm

"level * 7.5 + 50" is the stat of a PvE mob. If you look the formula you gave and the formula I gave is the same except I replace the PvE aspect with player_main_stat.

Is your archive just a screenshot of your stats? Because the character sheet will show your block % will all of your tactics/abilities/sets/etc from live.

Basically block on RoR works exactly the same as it did on live. Thus, as far as I know, there is no intention of raising block rating on shield because there is no need to do so.

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Strykhe
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#27 » Mon May 16, 2016 10:47 pm

Thus, as far as I know, there is no intention of raising block rating on shield because there is no need to do so.
Hummm, you don't understand, or i speak very bad ^^
I doesn't say to up a blockrate on shield.

My question concerned windows stat display, and value % block who hasn't write with a good value of blockrate according.

But if the windows stat was bugged, it's just logical.



I wait a patch !
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Tesq
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Re: Block Rate at T4 !

Post#28 » Fri May 20, 2016 10:20 am

it's not the block rate all avoidance are underperforming now i have 70% dodge/disrupot in hold the line hell i should perma avoid anything... it's from t2 i told that the warhammer in live had better chance than what you get show.
A 70-80% in a stat made you avoid almost anything from that type of hit. In hold the line instead i get plenty of hits.
In live a 60% block was like having a real 70%, serverside all chance to avoid attacks were re-touch to be mroe effective. Decreasing the more you stack it.
In t1 a 20% block was like have a 40% in t4.
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