Knight Stagger

[simtex]

Destro player saying that order tanks getting morale to fast, while chosen/bo have gains morale on block and is on m3/m4 really fast (distracting bellow, immaculate defense). And i seriously doubt you got rooted by kotbs m3 within 30 seconds of fight. even with morale jewel/cloak it will not be that fast. probably just WL m1. move along shall we?

[freshour]

Looking back on the game it was definitely a Knight who did it. And the group was not running an AM. They had 2 WL's but when "No Escape" was mentioned it made me rememeber looking at enemy and seeing those words.

So with no AM in combat while guarding would you guys say it can be done in 20-30 seconds? Or would that lead it to be more of a "sketchy level"?

I don't want this to turn into a balance discussion or for people to say what they think their class should say as I mentioned in my original post. I only wanted to know how they were doing this, if it was in fact a bug/exploit of some type. And if destro has some ways of doing this with the same effectiveness. Please for all future posts ignore people who post the things I mentioned in the original post and this one as well. Thank you

[freshour]

Destro player saying that order tanks getting morale to fast, while chosen/bo have gains morale on block and is on m3/m4 really fast (distracting bellow, immaculate defense). And i seriously doubt you got rooted by kotbs m3 within 30 seconds of fight. even with morale jewel/cloak it will not be that fast. probably just WL m1. move along shall we?

Exactly. 30 seconds seems too fast right? There was no AM in the party and I will be FRAPS'ing future pairings with this group. That is why I made this post. I'm not "destro player blah blah salt salt" - I am a player who enjoys playing this game and especially SC's.

If you have a problem with what I say, or things other people say feel free to pm them or take it elsewhere. I would really like for this to be a discussion. Not people getting emotional such as yourself. Thanks

[Halhammer]

So with no AM in combat while guarding would you guys say it can be done in 20-30 seconds? Or would that lead it to be more of a "sketchy level"?

In a Mourkain Temple or GoE for example, you can get it up within 30ish secs of bein engaged in combat yea...

[Bozzax]

The morale bar is 3600 points.
You need 360, 720, 1800, and 3600 moral total for each level.
You generate 10 morale each second that you are in combat, base.

4 x +2 rings green
+3 belt green
+4 Back blue

Set bonus? Other sources? Purplies? Goldies?

So 25s for 30s should be 750 or about M2 provided they started on 0. Anything before 1min from cold is unexpected even with better gear then above

[Halhammer]

Pretty damn sure it won't take me 3 min to get M3 up, without any morale gear slotted. I'll test that right now

[Abolition]

Id be more concerned with the 20% crit they give to their group. Thats the big disparity.

yea lets go give chosen the ability to buff 20% crit aswell so double marauder groups can run even more rampant LUL

As opposed to the double Slayer groups currently running around spamming AOE
LUL

[Gachimuchi]

Id be more concerned with the 20% crit they give to their group. Thats the big disparity.

I think we've covered that classes aren't supposed to be perfectly mirrored.

classic freshour shitpost

As opposed to the double Slayer groups currently running around spamming AOE

If you have a good premade comp and lose to slayers spamming flurry unironically you need to uninstall
FailFish

[thullonse]

Id be more concerned with the 20% crit they give to their group. Thats the big disparity.

yea lets go give chosen the ability to buff 20% crit aswell so double marauder groups can run even more rampant LUL

As opposed to the double Slayer groups currently running around spamming AOE
LUL

LUL spamming AoE as a slayer in 2k16 LUL nice healers you got there LUL

[freshour]

Id be more concerned with the 20% crit they give to their group. Thats the big disparity.

I think we've covered that classes aren't supposed to be perfectly mirrored.

classic freshour shitpost

As opposed to the double Slayer groups currently running around spamming AOE

If you have a good premade comp and lose to slayers spamming flurry unironically you need to uninstall
FailFish

Not entirely sure why you quote two other people you disagree with and go directly to insulting me. Seeing how we are in the same guild and I've never had any complaints before I'll take this as keyboard warrior 101. You seemed to miss the point of my post. It was asking if this is in fact WAI or if something fishy was going on. I asked a GM in game, he asked me to find out what it is and I figured I'd get some ideas on here. Sorry to take time out of your super busy Thursday mornin forum browsing.... But if we wanna dip below the belt a bit I'm sorry you lost to a duo Q with a full premade 4x in a row. I understand that some people don't do well with losing.

But to all the other fairly mature non 8-year olds who helped out. Thanks for clearing this up. I learned a lot about the morale and even refreshed myself on the # of points needed for the morale itself and how one would go about increasing it as much. Hope you guys all have a great day!