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[flintboth]

Please can you think five minutes about what happenng in T4, the real problem is not the RvR mechanic i think.

Rewards, high gears, high weapons, medaillons... are killing players mind and now In game we have most Farmer than Gamer.

Many persons log on now and are just waiting for loot bag, medals, rr, inf., seal... and non playing, can we change this behaviour to non promote, encourage farming in the RvR lake.

I mean only one set for one Tier (for three path, like the green set : Survivalist, healer, caster...), only one weapon for one Tier (survivalist, healer, caster...).

To encourage the game and the game play and to not promote the grind and the farm in the RvR lake.

[Crenshaw]

I dont get this thread. You want to cut gearing up and progression part of the game...so the people play more without having any real goals...?

[Azarael]

Did you read anything I posted about the driving mechanics of MMOs?

If not, could you please go do so now?

[Lileldys]

Grinding is a part of the old MMO world, removed mostly from the new MMOs to appeal to more.

Cost is similar to live anyway.

[Ghostweed]

@OP

u are right, kind of. Tedious grind and farm are the main reasons why I stopped playing ROR. Im casual player and I get frustrated when Im about to play the game I like, but I find out that the power gap is SO big between maxed lvl 35 char and fully geared lvl 40. The chars in game are unbalanced (and I mostly play UP chars like shammy) and the gear dependency is another major disbalancer.

I used to love play WAR becasue it was more about skill than a gear. In ROR its all about the gear due to the narrow community of mostly veteran players. Now I cant just hop in RVR/SC and have a good game since many ppl just farm hardcore to get their gear and talismans and I just get stomped in 3 secs.

I guess its alright, all MMOs were about the gear and ppl should get rewarded for time spent ingame. But I realized that this game is no longer for me. I have a life and I dont have time nor mood to be online daily for 3-5 hours. Its time for me to move on to more instant action games. Maybe u should do the same...?

[Vigfuss]

Since opening up the higher renown ranks, ORVR is quite active again, and ORVR was almost dead the week before. Seems like it was the right decision, but it would be better if the T4 gameplay was engaging enough to keep more people playing for the game and less for just chasing a carrot.

At least now there's some time for the devs to work that out.

[kweedko]

I like all those hipocrits talking about just play for the fun not for the PURPULE, but at the moment al least last 3 days the game is awful - PREMADES stomping to the ground the pug on sc and in rvr all day long getting all the RR and gear soloers and pug get nothing, zergs just sitting i their keeps and when finaly one of zergs come to opposit keep it goonna be stomped by premades, on off server you got choise go solo risk alot but gain great rewards(kill a 80 guy with 40 char and get sovereign crests) or go pug and get less but more often here you don't have that choise, decision on 25% Renown - not working properly on sc you kill 67 players ang get what 600 rp(are you kidding me it's less than 10rp per kill it's not a 25%) bisedes that you can do nothing against premade(on off serv you could punt them gurads and wiped them, here the guards not working properly due broken aggro mechanic) killing the game for pugs and ranodms it's killing the game itself, we all know that on off server farm never be the problem cause progress was fast and we all love it.

[flintboth]

Thank you for the replyes.

As I said, currently there is too much difference between players on the T4 RvR, due to the stuff ( high gears, high weapons, high jewerly...).
The other Tiers give more fun because there is no real difference between players.
T4 RvR is becoming a RvR lake for persons who want to play easy mode with high stuff (gears, weapons...) that give them an opportunity to kill evrybody, destroy a WarBand...
That difference from the gears bring nothing good in the RvR lake T4 all those little persons who want to play «gods mode» on, don't bring anything in the RvR lake T4, all they do is killing and they don't care about the game (Battle Objectives, keep seige...).

Please for Warhammer, for me, for the fun make only one gear, only one weapon, only one mount per Tier.
The thing who give fun to players who have joins the private server, this is not the gear, this is for the RvR of Warhammer and currently the gear is killing it, there is too much difference, who bring too much farmer and don't promotes the epic battle finaly the reason why we log In game.

Who don't like the open warband ?
Some of persons who connect themselves In game online want to make friends and speaking, joking or they want to become a great Leader and be the only Voice of their realm or just want to have the Most Epic 6 mans group VS the World but many of us are here just for the game, just for have fun to play.
They are all great and necessary for the game BUT can you put all this players equal In game, don't give more importance for one style of play, give the same gear for all, please.

In past i have deleted all my characters, they was too OP, no fun to play.
I have deleted all my Crafting and Gathering artisans, i have trow in garbage all my medallions, emblems, high gears, high weapons, seal of domination, pots, talismans... And now i m playing with the green gear and green weapons to be at the same level than new player.
To play only to play.
And now i have more fun, probably I m stupid.

[kweedko]

Thank you for the replyes.

As I said, currently there is too much difference between players on the T4 RvR, due to the stuff ( high gears, high weapons, high jewerly...).
The other Tiers give more fun because there is no real difference between players.
T4 RvR is becoming a RvR lake for persons who want to play easy mode with high stuff (gears, weapons...) that give them an opportunity to kill evrybody, destroy a WarBand...
That difference from the gears bring nothing good in the RvR lake T4 all those little persons who want to play «gods mode» on, don't bring anything in the RvR lake T4, all they do is killing and they don't care about the game (Battle Objectives, keep seige...).

Please for Warhammer, for me, for the fun make only one gear, only one weapon, only one mount per Tier.
The thing who give fun to players who have joins the private server, this is not the gear, this is for the RvR of Warhammer and currently the gear is killing it, there is too much difference, who bring too much farmer and don't promotes the epic battle finaly the reason why we log In game.

Who don't like the open warband ?
Some of persons who connect themselves In game online want to make friends and speaking, joking or they want to become a great Leader and be the only Voice of their realm or just want to have the Most Epic 6 mans group VS the World but many of us are here just for the game, just for have fun to play.
They are all great and necessary for the game BUT can you put all this players equal In game, don't give more importance for one style of play, give the same gear for all, please.

In past i have deleted all my characters, they was too OP, no fun to play.
I have deleted all my Crafting and Gathering artisans, i have trow in garbage all my medallions, emblems, high gears, high weapons, seal of domination, pots, talismans... And now i m playing with the green gear and green weapons to be at the same level than new player.
To play only to play.
And now i have more fun, probably I m stupid.

You talking nonsense for most of the classes(casters especially) t3 sets almost simmilar or even better than t4 ruin and ani there is no such differences like between ani and sovereign.

Variety is always better than equality main problems is slow progress and OP BIAS based balance.

[Ninepaces]

I like all those hipocrits talking about just play for the fun not for the PURPULE, but at the moment al least last 3 days the game is awful - PREMADES stomping to the ground the pug on sc and in rvr all day long getting all the RR

premades don't stomp for the rr...that is the talk of someone who doesn't understand. Anyone can get rr and medals in a pug wb. Premades stomp because they can... for fame, for the thrill of going 1 party vs 1 warband, for action, for the challenge of having to play their class to the best standard, and above all they stomp for that rush when the fog clears and enemy bodies are dead everywhere around them and they're still alive.