RvR Factions Balance - Any Idea ?

[Alfinnete]

Sorry for my English.

OK, we all know that the balance between Order and Dest never existed, will always have a side with more players.

At this time the Dest is flaying the T4 at virtually any time, scenarios are rare those who finish suitable for Order, regardless of premade.

I do not want to leave a criticism here. What do you think the Devs could do so that there is more balance between the factions and have more fun?

Ty.

[Tesq]

deliver the finished rvr system as soon as their time allow

[Lileldys]

Playerbase issue right now. Destro has 2 large RvR guild/ally warbands and Order has none, thats why order losses each night.

[saupreusse]

We have to see how things look once we got rid of x realmers.

[grumcajs]

There is nothing devs can do. It was impossible in WAR, it is impossible here. Especially when its free so you can have more accounts (destro one, order one - in case someone would try to argue with faction lock on account cuz xrealmers)

When u make max pop for certain tier its not orvr anymore, not to mention someone roam the zone solo in grp, some run in wb, some just afk, craft, pve.... so there would still be imbalance no matter what.

In WAR there used to be some renown bonus for faction that was losing for a long time nonstop (in the early years I think). Again - this wont work cuz its free and you would just make the problem happen on the other side.

You cannot even remove the zone lock reward or strip down the reward cuz it would make the keep just waste of time and players would wc camp.

Its playerbase problem. Hell, its human behavior problem - what would you choose in real life? Reward for "hard work" or reward for "easy work"?

Its just my pov. Sure the devs might have something in mind that would work. In the past they have proven they have good ideas so we can only hope for them to impress us

[saupreusse]

We WILL get rid of x-realming. At least in this scale.

[navis]

Other than big RvR changes, make sure game can be fun even if your realm is getting rolled, which is going to happen at least some of the time, no matter what - just reality.
I'm not going to add any more suggestions until dev's have had time to develop their ideas fully, or they ask for more ideas for RvR (in a thread).
cheers

[zazie]

I've found order runs a lot more premades, and a lot of them don't really roam. I solo que a lot for destro and the majority of the matches I get its atleast an order premade and a bunch of random destro.

I find it weird that more of these order premades don't collaborate and run together in atleast 2 groups because the majority of destro WB's I see have 1 group thats balanced and the others are just tossed together full of whatever class with maybe 1 healer.

Alas most of these order premades are basically just based around their ST Rotation BW's who kill someone every 10 seconds because most destro healers don't cleanse and their 2h DPS tanks just train whatever comes into their backlines with ease.

Honestly if order was more organized and team oriented like destro the T4 oRvR scene would be much different but it seems as if a lot of the order guilds/premades are just out for themselves.

[Loans]

I've found order runs a lot more premades, and a lot of them don't really roam. I solo que a lot for destro and the majority of the matches I get its atleast an order premade and a bunch of random destro.

I find it weird that more of these order premades don't collaborate and run together in atleast 2 groups because the majority of destro WB's I see have 1 group thats balanced and the others are just tossed together full of whatever class with maybe 1 healer.

Alas most of these order premades are basically just based around their ST Rotation BW's who kill someone every 10 seconds because most destro healers don't cleanse and their 2h DPS tanks just train whatever comes into their backlines with ease.

Honestly if order was more organized and team oriented like destro the T4 oRvR scene would be much different but it seems as if a lot of the order guilds/premades are just out for themselves.

There is always a Korze on dest side that do the same

[roadkillrobin]

I've found order runs a lot more premades, and a lot of them don't really roam. I solo que a lot for destro and the majority of the matches I get its atleast an order premade and a bunch of random destro.

I find it weird that more of these order premades don't collaborate and run together in atleast 2 groups because the majority of destro WB's I see have 1 group thats balanced and the others are just tossed together full of whatever class with maybe 1 healer.

Alas most of these order premades are basically just based around their ST Rotation BW's who kill someone every 10 seconds because most destro healers don't cleanse and their 2h DPS tanks just train whatever comes into their backlines with ease.

Honestly if order was more organized and team oriented like destro the T4 oRvR scene would be much different but it seems as if a lot of the order guilds/premades are just out for themselves.

Moast of the scenario preemades arn't really intreasteed in strategy or their impact on the long term goal of the campain, ORVR is about strategy. They basicly only cares about the kill/death ratio and their personal progression. It's the reason why they ignore objetives in SC and why they don't cooporates with pugs. This is usually the reason they don't team up with others in ORVR aswell. You often see these guys complaing about zergs and AoE spamming even when it's just 3-4 groups doin it. Their group setups, specs and numbers arnt optimal for these situations so it's easier for them to que up for scenarios. A "safe" enviorment were there is a limit of how many players they have to deal with that doesn't mess to much with their KD/Ratio.