About capturing BO's

[BrockRiefenstahl]

Would you be agree if we were changing ORvR systems and rules as often as we need ( every days/weeks/month) to test, experiment and -i hope- find a good solution( i remember you this is an alpha stage), without whining about any changes we will do?

Ofc i agree!! You dont even have to ask.Thats the purpose of this server! Just do it!
Testers>Players.

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[Luicetarro]

I did play at the time as BOs still gave Exp/Renown/Inf.

There were 2 full wb on each side, constantly roaming around. But there was no fighting going on.

Why?

Because ppl are into farming, not into fighting.
Those wb did constantly avoid each other, re-/capping BOs for easy rewards.

Ppl always will aim for the best reward in regards of the efford. And capping undefended BOs, taking undefended keeps are the most rewarding actions.
Ppl play T1, reach T2, powerlvl (before they capped empty BOs, or did rats) and try to reach end-tier as soon as possible. Currently you can plvl in one day till T4, farm ruin on the next, get your T4 epic weapons and head out into the field, gaining more RR after 3 days total than you would have earned by RvRing your way from 1-40.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

I did play at the time as BOs still gave Exp/Renown/Inf.

There were 2 full wb on each side, constantly roaming around. But there was no fighting going on.

Why?

Because ppl are into farming, not into fighting.
Those wb did constantly avoid each other, re-/capping BOs for easy rewards.

Ppl always will aim for the best reward in regards of the efford. And capping undefended BOs, taking undefended keeps are the most rewarding actions.
Ppl play T1, reach T2, powerlvl (before they capped empty BOs, or did rats) and try to reach end-tier as soon as possible. Currently you can plvl in one day till T4, farm ruin on the next, get your T4 epic weapons and head out into the field, gaining more RR after 3 days total than you would have earned by RvRing your way from 1-40.

Maybe there was 1 time happening such a thing. But common, ZERGING is the best overall reward! Its better than anything i saw so far on this realm. (Even tho those numbersare lower than on original Mythic server)

I would take a fight anyday because first: Its fun + second it is better reward too!

[Luicetarro]

Maybe there was 1 time happening such a thing. But common, ZERGING is the best overall reward! Its better than anything i saw so far on this realm. (Even tho those numbersare lower than on original Mythic server)

I would take a fight anyday because first: Its fun + second it is better reward too!

I was there, what about you?
Lvled 5 toons through T2 with PvE and Scens, since I didn't want to be part of that 'Avoid the enemy to gain fast Exp/RR/Inf without any fight!!!'-nonsense that was on the field here.

So nopes. Sorry to pop a bubble, but adding Exp/RR/Inf to capturing BOs won't force big epic fights.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

I was there, what about you?
Lvled 5 toons through T2 with PvE and Scens, since I didn't want to be part of that 'Avoid the enemy to gain fast Exp/RR/Inf without any fight!!!'-nonsense that was on the field here.

So nopes. Sorry to pop a bubble, but adding Exp/RR/Inf to capturing BOs won't force big epic fights.

What would you suggest? Do you have an idea?
Anyway, I think, now I do the same... Just go grind Mobs and poop on T2...

[Calendra]

I was there, what about you?
Lvled 5 toons through T2 with PvE and Scens, since I didn't want to be part of that 'Avoid the enemy to gain fast Exp/RR/Inf without any fight!!!'-nonsense that was on the field here.

So nopes. Sorry to pop a bubble, but adding Exp/RR/Inf to capturing BOs won't force big epic fights.

So you avoided the xp/rr train in rvr, by doing PVE?

[Luicetarro]

I was there, what about you?
Lvled 5 toons through T2 with PvE and Scens, since I didn't want to be part of that 'Avoid the enemy to gain fast Exp/RR/Inf without any fight!!!'-nonsense that was on the field here.

So nopes. Sorry to pop a bubble, but adding Exp/RR/Inf to capturing BOs won't force big epic fights.

What would you suggest? Do you have an idea?
Anyway, I think, now I do the same... Just go grind Mobs and poop on T2...

I have some ideas, but can't tell if they are implementable without client-access. Basically you'd have to create an system in which the lower tiers have a purpose. Right now, no one does care about the lower tiers. Why should they? If debolstered, your toon is weaker than the ones actually in the lvl-range, you won't get Renown, since you usually outleveled the RR-Range for the zone, as lvl 40 you won't need the Exp either and you're unable to gain RvR-Influence.
Not complaining about those things, just they are adding up, since there is nothing of importance in the lower tier zones.
Change that, make them have some value for higher tiers and ppl might see the need to debolster and fill those zones.

So you avoided the xp/rr train in rvr, by doing PVE?

Indeed, I did. You may call me stupid for it, but I'd rather grind my way to T3, instead of running in the horde, capturing undefended BO. Did it once for about 1 1/2 hours, till I was bored to tears and never did it again.

[Grious]

What about making BO captures only reward influence, this would help with the current problem of people leveling out of tier before capping out on influence for that tier. Yes it means there would probably be people just grinding for influence but I would hope that not giving xp/rr would dissuade that. Also with the new lords it could give something more to progress/do on in the RvR lakes during the quiet population times when there is not enough on to deal with Mr. Pathing Issues.

[Haojin]

Didnt read the old posts but BO means for me: Battlefield objective, important spots of battlefield. they shouldnt be capped by 2-3 guy. It breaks the keep sieges.

I can accept gain from BO's only with boosting BO npcs.