Logging into keep under attack

[Vdalin]

I expect this to be controversial, but people should not be able to log into a keep that is under attack, they should be logged into the nearest warcamp and have to run to the keep. It seems to have become a strategy to leave a toon in the keep and go work on other toons until that last minute and get a cheapie D tick and then log out again. It seems to violate the spirit of the game.

Brightliight- BW, Working-AM

[Thelen]

I don't think this is a big of an occurrence as you believe. Being able to log back into a keep is important because of all the WB crashes that occur.

I find it hard to believe that a significant amount of people log out in keep and log in just to get paltry defense tics. Also, zones change every few hours (sometimes sooner), if you log out in a keep its likely next time you log in the war will be in one of the other 8 zones.

[areanda]

I agree with the original poster shudnt be possible to log back in a keep... cause it is being used alot.. seen People abuse it alot even friends of mine do it not for defense tick but te defense itself. If u crash to bad walk back If u Just log in walk from wc.

[Glorian]

Well point is difficult.

1. I have seen that Destro use login into an attacked keep where I'm defending in Lord Room. And 3 Destros log in the 10 aeconds after the Inner Keep Door falls.
Felt like being on the Bridge of the Enterpise when the Klingons make a transporter boarding Action.

2. It is also true that with the DCs and Warband DCs it would be quite hard for attack and defence if you can't login where you are standing, but need to come back from your warcamp. For defence it would be almost game over.

This is no "bad, bad destro" post. There are the same persons on Order side.
What I want to say: Login into keep is good after a DC, but bad when you just want to switch chars.

[Shenzi]

This is a Massive Issue. I have seen 20 or more Destro log in to their keep fo defense mulitiple times. AAO goes "out-the-window"
within seconds. Something needs to be done. GM Alena is well aware of it as she has seen it as well.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

I expect this to be controversial, but people should not be able to log into a keep that is under attack, they should be logged into the nearest warcamp and have to run to the keep. It seems to have become a strategy to leave a toon in the keep and go work on other toons until that last minute and get a cheapie D tick and then log out again. It seems to violate the spirit of the game.

Brightliight- BW, Working-AM

What the hell? Are you seriously thinking, that people do such things for 3k renown?
How are the odds, that you log out at the exact Keep, that when you come home from work, is the exact one under attack?!

This would not even be "exploitable" if you always hit the correct keep. There are ways to get Cheaper and better renown... For example if your Order... Just kill a "streaming Marauder" when he has no personal Jesus around.

Have you ever thought, that people had disconnects at keepfights, therefore they are logged in there?

The only thing I think is possible, that there are some premades that want to troll you...

[Achilleos]

On the other hand... as we know disconnects don't occur too rare during such sieges. Just yesterday, during the Night Goblin Hole siege, there were two rather major mass-dc's, which also affected many defenders, such as myself.
We could log back in in the keep and barely fend off the attackers, who happened to break through during this dc. If we were logged back in at the WC, the siege would have been over and lost immediately (the Keep was taken after all).

[BrockRiefenstahl]

Spoiler:

Well point is difficult.

1. I have seen that Destro use login into an attacked keep where I'm defending in Lord Room. And 3 Destros log in the 10 aeconds after the Inner Keep Door falls.
Felt like being on the Bridge of the Enterpise when the Klingons make a transporter boarding Action.

2. It is also true that with the DCs and Warband DCs it would be quite hard for attack and defence if you can't login where you are standing, but need to come back from your warcamp. For defence it would be almost game over.

This is no "bad, bad destro" post. There are the same persons on Order side.
What I want to say: Login into keep is good after a DC, but bad when you just want to switch chars.

The only thing I can imagine is:

There are certain "min-maxing" individuals who have their "alts" on a second account. They are forcing the fight in a certain way, and relog with the other account in the perfect moment.
But seriously, do you guys really thik thats realistic? I can't imagine that 20++ players put in that much hassle for such a small benefit/time/etc ratio.
As a famous dwarf always said: Less qq, more pewpew!

Here is another one: Imagine there is a whole WB in Teamspeak and a mass disconnect happens. Lets say 1-4 ppl had no disconnect and guide their WB mates (via voice), to log in all at the exact same moment, for an extra surprise.

To all that, who started this discussion: Imagine Devs change things again shortsightet (not because they feel the need, but they are forced due to heavy outcry), in a manner how you would want this to be fixed.
I bet, when its even a bigger mess after that (and it certainly would), you all would shut your mouthes and hide in some forum corner...

[Grunbag]

It's like player that stay afk inside keep , it totally break the aao , I remember that in live you were getting teleport to war camp if you stayed too long inside a keep , it would be great to reintroduce this either

[Syko]

I have personally observed numerous destro toons logging in on the third floor of a keep where the inner door was down and Order was pushing the take. Always the third floor. It was not a DC situation, they are toons not previously in the battle. I have been keeping track of the player count in the zone and watched the numbers climb with the logins. The whole purpose appears to be an exploit used to stop the keep take and Order zone lock.

In fact, I have actually been on the top of the outer wall and watched orange named toons appear one after the other inside the third floor of the keep.

I can see where it is only fair to be allowed to respawn in the keep if that is where you were when the dc happened, but, as suggested, players who intentionally log off in a keep just to have that toon there should then log on in the warcamp. A simple timer would accomplish this. If you have logged off a toon in a keep, you have, say, three minutes to log back on that toon and still be in the keep. Otherwise you will be in the wc.