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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#11 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:10 am

Dabbart wrote:
SCs are fun, quick, and if you have a good team easy to farm.

Same for RvR, a lot of premades are full Conq, type some common names on armory and you shall see :)

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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#12 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:50 am

I mostly play tanks although I have all class types...but tanks are what I love the most. Comparatively, SCs are generally fun for tanks where fun is defined as being able to use all my abilities effectively most of the time. RvR is generally not fun for tanks b/c other than a couple different situations it is mostly guard-botting the healer or an RDPS (due to changes the devs made that make tank walls/breaking tank walls at keeps and sallying through the front gate pointless).

So anything that encourages more SCs is fine by me. Or more small squad action on RvR. Whatever works.

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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#13 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:02 am

wargrimnir wrote:If we thought scenarios needed more incentive, then we would add things for scenarios. Posts like this are largely ignored by staff because we understand that scenarios are a mini-game, and giving you all the tools to earn RvR reward :ugeek: s is counter-productive to active RvR.
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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#14 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:12 pm

Have to empathise with OT: scenario 'competitive play' seems to have taken a nosedive, with very little incentive to play. I get that it's a minigame to some, but for others, scenarios are THE reason they play (balanced PvP with fun mechanics involved).

This isn't intended as a whine post or anything, just wondering whether or not it would be feasible to have the new currency (for the aesthetic gear) drop in both scenarios and RvR?
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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#15 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:18 pm

peterthepan3 wrote:Have to empathise with OT: scenario 'competitive play' seems to have taken a nosedive, with very little incentive to play. I get that it's a minigame to some, but for others, scenarios are THE reason they play (balanced PvP with fun mechanics involved).

This isn't intended as a whine post or anything, just wondering whether or not it would be feasible to have the new currency (for the aesthetic gear) drop in both scenarios and RvR?
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As I said on the previous page. For many players RVR is "The main attraction" and I get that you want to incentive people to play RVR MORE. However there is also a group that prefers SC style PVP over RVR. To them, SCs are "The main attraction" and RVR is really just a "means" to get gear.

I am fine with all that, but I would really encourage the DEV team to consider allowing SCs to be "a path" to the same gear. I am NOT asking for it to be an "easier" path, but a path...

If someone wants to grind out 2,200 SC Emblems for say... A Subjugator Weapon... Why not let them? Its largely comparable to the SC one. Or if someone wants RVR sets instead of SC sets... Why not allow that - even if its for lower tier? Such as Annihilator and Mercenary and below...

I dont see why we have to have this idea that they should be mutually exclusive... If someone does RVR but prefers SC gear, why shouldnt they be able to get SC gear from RVR? And Vice versa... IT doesnt have to be "equal time" meaning that the "currency exchange could be a painful ratio..." but I dont get "Why Not let people play the game mode they prefer?"

Anyways, ill stop my rant. I know my views differ from many staff so its moot but I just dont agree with that mindset of "SC is a minigame and RVR is the real game"... PVP is PVP.. People come here to PVP.
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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#16 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:21 pm

wargrimnir wrote:If we thought scenarios needed more incentive, then we would add things for scenarios. Posts like this are largely ignored by staff because we understand that scenarios are a mini-game, and giving you all the tools to earn RvR rewards is counter-productive to active RvR.
Only a mini game trolol ...
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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#17 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:32 pm

peterthepan3 wrote: I get that it's a minigame to some, but for others, scenarios are THE reason they play (balanced PvP with fun mechanics involved).
Agreed 100%

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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#18 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:50 pm

peterthepan3 wrote:balanced PvP with fun mechanics involved?
Tor Anroc with 12x level 32 engineers against a double melee premade you mean?

Sc's are rarely balanced, because there is no matchmaking. Yeah it's the same number of players on each side but that doesn't mean all that much.

That being said the current system in terms of item progression is terrible for sc's. All the best stuff for most classes is in RvR.
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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#19 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:07 pm

Danielle wrote:
peterthepan3 wrote:balanced PvP with fun mechanics involved?
Tor Anroc with 12x level 32 engineers against a double melee premade you mean?

Sc's are rarely balanced, because there is no matchmaking. Yeah it's the same number of players on each side but that doesn't mean all that much.

That being said the current system in terms of item progression is terrible for sc's. All the best stuff for most classes is in RvR.
You realize this is exactly how RVR is? Or any game that players can go against other players? You will never find everyone wanting to equally play an archetype. Even in premade SC groups and WB's you might get a balanced comp but I promise that not everyone wants to play that class lol. SC's is a place where the majority of players can have fun and play what they want to play. Order is always going to have more range in pugs, and more WL's and slayers in pre's. Destro has a few things that it does too but generally destro has more melee for a lot reasons, for one.. they look amazing.

So while I understand your sentiment to shut down me asking for opinions, it is just that; an opinion. So I'll say thanks for it anyway :D

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Re: Will SC's ever drop anything but emblems?

Post#20 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:08 pm

Scenarios "drop" the best renown for your time. Sub rr40 you're raking in 6k+ per win, often in less than fifteen minutes, which is 24k renown in an hour if you can competently build a group with five people that know their class. In RVR it's a gamble you'll spend an hour in a lake and get even half that.

I'd only like to see statless appearance gear currency rewarded from the CW/EC scenario quests, to incentivize 6v6 with equipment that can be worn as a trophy, more or less. Few enough people play competitive 6v6, and there's an absurd amount of appearance gear in the thread pertaining to the subject.
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