Bring back the champion Rats!!!

[Grimgore]

Well, Its been said before many times. But the initial excuse (that i have heard at least), for the removal of the champ rats in the rvr area of t2 and t3 was so that ppl dont power farm too much since the t4 was still under debugging/construction.

But now, especially since t2 and t3 merged together, and so many ppl want to power farm, and tier 4 Is really developed, why cant we bring the rats back? And no ppl who wanna power farm will powerfarm. You cant exept from ppl to learn their champ/role because rats are disabled(sounds good, doesn't work). It will just make it easier for those who already know the game , to develop a new character(rush to tier4 and lvl up their rr there since its easier and more exiting if you already hace done it several times).

The main mentality behind it is this :Since most ppl already wanna power farm till tier4 and then make renown (couse its faster), making it easier and less boring is a way of making the game better, isnt it? Isnt this (better and less boring) something that we should aim for?

Lets have a poll? And pls reply your opinions , on why yes or why no!

[Danord]

So harsh, but people enjoy rats.
And i enjoy people to play with and against..

[Grimgore]

enjoy your poll/discussion, they wont be returning.

Care to give at least a reason? Or at least the area of the problem (Gameplay, Warhammer lore, Population management, Code-bug problems? )

[Jaycub]

Already had this thread

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13691&p=149990&hili ... ts#p149990

There seems to be a disconnect here, no one cares about the rats. It's getting out of dead tiers asap. You can search again, team here has no desire to make leveling a fast process, so you are at the mercy of the community to give you constant PvP action in the lower tiers, if this is not the case and the zones are dead then you either suck it up and grind for 20 hours killing boars or whatever instead of 4 or 5 hours at rats. You either accept that or quit.

That or you get a friend to let you last hit 40 champs although that is fixed this last patch or in sure will be the case sooner or later. Or just only play when there is action in t3 and log off till next time EU prime.

[Dabbart]

Spoiler:

Also, I lvled my WH back in the day ganking people at rats in T3... When BO guards was the thing, JBZ and I had some good fights around them as well...

But yea. Either powerlevel the old fashioned way(killing **** tons of mobs solo or with a team), orvr/sc, or quest. If they would input rats, then why not just /lvl40 command? The argument is basically the same, and the answer has been made quite clear...

@Jaycub, I thought that was the hotfix they mentioned on PLing. Last shotting should never of given that much XP, since it should be based on % of damage done. It's only the loot that goes to the final shot. Unless you have tested it since hotfix?

[Jaycub]

Too consumed with getting OP beastlord 3pc, but rayzr needs his sh in t4 to play with us so we might find out tonight what the change was.

We were getting 12k xp a last hit, for around 1.2 to 1.5 million xp an hour for anyone level 13 with PvE greens or higher so you got to t4 in under 3 hours.

If pling is completely gone probably none of us will roll alts anymore and once we are bored with what we have in t4 we will just quit for a while. Though with patcher out soon hopefully content keeps things fresh instead of the need to roll alts till we hit the conq grind brick wall.

[Fey]

Leveling any toon in this game is a cake-walk of a joke. If you can't tolerate this leveling quit MMOs forever.

[TenTonHammer]

Leveling any toon in this game is a cake-walk of a joke. If you can't tolerate this leveling quit MMOs forever.

congrats on "using" AAO, or playing in a group or grinding forever or doing what ever the hell you did to get through mid tier or just thinking that since this game isnt as grindy as a Korean mmo its a "cake walk"


But i can tell you right now yes for the AVERAGE person espically one whom has the misfortune of playing in non EU prime time, yes slogging through mid tier is a long boring and arduous process trying to level up with only rested exp bonus b/c their is no sc pops or rvr action , it genuinely puts off new people and additionally more or less forces people to commit to one class/toon as it dosnt feel like it worth it to go through the slog again which defeats the whole purpose of the alpha server.

[Serkha]

First toon, only been playing RoR for a week or so...maybe two by now. Its a Sorc.

Levelling through t2/t3 is slow and tedious and reliant on a primetime that is anything but convenient for me (Oceanic player). I would still rather solo backlash myself to death grinding mobs than see the return of the rats - hated them in live. Felt they were against the 'spirit of the game' which was and is predominately (group)pvp, rats tarnished that and rat farmers would mess with aao / add to lag in rvr lakes, hindering players trying to play the game.

Also, would imagine that policing the rat spawn points would be a pain, they were usually full of botters (or maybe just truly abysmal players), such that even ganking them left a hollow feeling.

Annnd...it's Gork.

[Fey]

I played Daoc, and I leveled 10 toons to 40 on this server with zero help. It is beyond easy to level on this server. You have no idea what the term, "grind", means. Whatever, you post more than I do so I suppose you win.