ORvR rework+ DOOMSDAY : All the truth

[biotek]

... In T1 it does add a good dynamic and as players we have to make a choice.

Even T1 players are tired of flag-sitting. It's a bad first impression of the game for new players and all it does is promote AFK.
How many times have you been guarding a BO for 10+min before any action at all just to get overrun because 3 out of 5 were AFK? ...virtually every single time. I realize people have to run to the restroom or get a drink, etc. but after sitting at a BO for so long people get bored and look for other stimulation.

Even if keeping flags controlled without AFKers cause battle outside the Warcamps it's better than having no action at all. If the advantaged team wants to give points to the underdogs by dying to WC cannons then that's should be okay. Also, there are plenty of ways to get into the RvR Lakes without pushing into the WC blob.

I could keep going on T1 in particular but that would be getting too far off topic.

[GodlessCrom]

Yeah not a fan of the afk flag sitting, glad to see it tweaked. Small scale fights around bos is cool: wiping afkers is boring. Though occasionally fun :p

[Leecifer]

- Changing character/sides in the middle of the campaign will significantly lower your chances of winning anything.

It is great that you guys are addressing crossrealming, especially when loot is involved.

and im not sure if anyone brought this up yet but as someone with multiple 40s and a guild to run with I usually change characters a couple times a night just to fill out the party better.

i.e. I wouldnt want to get punished by changing to a healer or tank which would help out my party and my realm. Would be nice to be able to change my character around WHILE on the same realm without lowering my chances at a bag.

[Yaliskah]

- The more you will contribute, the higher your chance will be.

So obviously, if you change character during campaign, both characters will have a lower contribution than if you had played all the time with the same. I don't see the issue or the punishment .

But you are right, we could delete contribution for disconnected character if you connect character from the other side too ...

[Aurandilaz]

wait, so if I log in first on my Chosen to check my mail, do nothing else for 5 mins, but then log Order and play that side for say 5 hours, I get somehow reduced renown or contri because I had logged Destro earlier that same day?

[KikkL]

Maybe add some kind of reason to defend the BO? Its nice BOs stay captured.
But there is no reason to defend them. BOs are just kinda left open for the opposing realm to come in and capture.

If there was some kind of Defense mechanism you could also make the BOs permanently lock, or the BOs to permanently lock on inactivity of opposing realm capturing them.
BOs locking could be the main emphasis that adds supplies, regeneration, travel. BOs would have a limited lock time.
This puts more activity on BOs and skirmishes around BOs.
BOs have no features unless locked.


States of bos.
2 states. claimed, locked.
claimed bos remain held even if players are not present, held bos are able to be claimed by opposing realm(current state).
BOs lock on inactivity of opposing realm recapturing.

example
bo is green. order claims bo. order leaves, bo remains held by order. opposing realm can recapture.

Inactivity by opposing realm lock feature.
If a claimed bo goes 5minutes without any attempts from opposing realm of re-capture it becomes locked(for team that held it).
Locked BOs add supplies, regeneration, travel.

example.
order claims bo. order leaves. no destro attempt to take bo in 5min. bo locks for order.
Order receives supplies, regeneration, travel access.

Locked bos regenerate supplies. bos stay locked 15min.
Locked bos can be used as travel points between wc/keep/other locked bos.
After 15min bo becomes open for capture(green).
Locked bos cannot be claimed, recaptured.

examples of locks.
Order claims bo, destro attempts to reclaim. if order reclaims bo before destro claims, it becomes locked for order. order receives bonus xp/rr/inf for defending bo.
supplies, regeneration, travel access.

Destruction claims bo. Order claims bo from destro. Destro reclaims bo from order. Bo locks for destro. destro receives bonus xp/rr/inf for locking bo.
supplies, regeneration, travel access.

Destruction claims bo. Order claims bo from destruction. Destruction attempts to reclaim, fails. Bo becomes locked for order. order receives bonus xp/rr/inf for taking bo.
supplies, regeneration, travel access.

order claims bo. destro claims bo. order does not reattempt claim in 5min. bo becomes locked for destro.
Destro receives supplies, regeneration, travel access.

[Vajazzle24]

- The more you will contribute, the higher your chance will be.

So obviously, if you change character during campaign, both characters will have a lower contribution than if you had played all the time with the same. I don't see the issue or the punishment .

But you are right, we could delete contribution for disconnected character if you connect character from the other side too ...

Why are you punished for switching characters on the same faction. This does not help action it hurts it due to the fact if you have to few healers people won't want to switch. Literally makes no sense. Should just migrate to the toon you are on. Since you know... You were there...

[wargrimnir]

- The more you will contribute, the higher your chance will be.

So obviously, if you change character during campaign, both characters will have a lower contribution than if you had played all the time with the same. I don't see the issue or the punishment .

But you are right, we could delete contribution for disconnected character if you connect character from the other side too ...

Why are you punished for switching characters on the same faction. This does not help action it hurts it due to the fact if you have to few healers people won't want to switch. Literally makes no sense. Should just migrate to the toon you are on. Since you know... You were there...

No chance. You're not going to be accumulating a ton of contribution on your main character to suddenly feed it to a low-ranked character. Consider people running in full BiS gear. Why would they ever close out a zone on that character if they can give it to one of their lower ranked chars? If you want bags on a character, that one is going to work for it. No freebies.

[Leecifer]

- The more you will contribute, the higher your chance will be.

So obviously, if you change character during campaign, both characters will have a lower contribution than if you had played all the time with the same. I don't see the issue or the punishment .

Okay so your saying my chances are just lower bc my 2 chracters spent less time in rvr/fighting then if I was just on ONE guy.

That makes total sense, the way i initially read it made me believe that by simply changing character you would get a flat -% in contribution

[Leecifer]

Vajazzle and I werent referring to TRANFERRING the contribution from one character to the next, we just thought there was a a mechanic that would PENALIZE your contribution bc you were just on another char in the same zone.