[Sorceress/Bright Wizzard] Dark Magic / Combustion Backlashs

[Telen]

I have seen bw take over 850 damage from explosions at 100 before.

[Luth]

I don't know, just posted the video if someone needs it.
I'm still for a 50% incoming healdebuff at max. combustion, that stacks multiplicatively with other healdebuffs. So 50% self HD + 50% enemy HD is 75% until the bw/sorc uses meltdown.

[Novgoroth]

I'm still for a 50% incoming healdebuff at max. combustion, that stacks multiplicatively with other healdebuffs. So 50% self HD + 50% enemy HD is 75% until the bw/sorc uses meltdown.

Yeah sur, what about a oneshot backlash at max DM/com ?.......

And there's no WSCT on the video, so it's impossible to see what skill cause the damage. And i don't see the max damage on the BW when he's not on max comb.

[Azarael]

Heal debuff is something I would like to see implemented in the future as well, tbh.

[Novgoroth]

That's a personnal feeling from a developper, and i'm sorry, but it's unfair...
If so, i want the same thing for the slayer/choppa

[Luth]

Yeah sur, what about a oneshot backlash at max DM/com ?.......

Atm the mechanic allows the bw/sorc to keep 100 combustion all the time in a group setup, while it is on the other side very painful to quest/level solo with the class.

The healdebuff wouldn't oneshot anyone, it would force the player to use meltdown when getting focussed by other dps. He can kite others and use skills like he does normally, but if he wants to get some serious heals, he has to use meltdown from time to time. Also maybe the cooldown of meltdown has to be removed for this.
But i can see why some players wouldn't like this...

And incase this wasn't clear: I suggest the healdebuff instead of the selfdamage, not additionally to it.

And there's no WSCT on the video, so it's impossible to see what skill cause the damage. And i don't see the max damage on the BW when he's not on max comb.

As i already wrote, i posted the video for informational reasons. I'm not interested in discussing if the max. explosion hit is 832 or 18 damage more, because it simply doesn't matter.

[Azarael]

As Luth has stated, the BW/Sorc mechanic is so awesome because its drawback disappeared as the game progressed. Damage and heal inflation relative to the amount of damage actually dealt by an Explosion or Backlash meant that running 100 Combustion was never actually a problem - the benefits far outweighed the drawbacks. Usually this would be defended with "lol bw/sorc are supposed to do lots of damage!", but remember - if the BW/Sorc potential for damage is significantly greater than that of the other RDPS classes without appropriate drawbacks to prevent them from dealing massive damage all the time, then BW/Sorc are unbalanced.

[Novgoroth]

You just remove the interest of a 100% burst class, that's the matter.
I played both side all along the 5 years, and if i think in that way, i think the slayer needs a big nerf like this far away before the sorc ...

[Azarael]

Care to make an actual argument rather than "muh class, nerf slayers"? With the current Combustion handling, you're not a burst class because there's nothing to stop you from doing sustained DPS. Combustion was supposed to be that limiter, but it fails at its role.

[Novgoroth]

If you see th patchnote of the 1.4.9 who were supposed to be the new implementation (but sadly never happened), mythic wanted to increase the backlage amount (something to 1100 at rr100).
And honnestly, i prefer higher backlash like rightnow or like mythic was about to do, than healdebuff that change completly the utility of the sorc/bw, and so the gameplay.