Any reason to play Choppa over Mara?

[dansari]

You can say that but Mara have the armor ignore tactic and the big debuff.

Try being a Choppa without someone bringing a big armor debuff in the current armor tali meta. You just get mitigated into the ground even with high WS.

Well sure, but I think that says more about Mara debuff utility than it does about Choppa usefulness

[Smellybelly]

The mere fact that GTTC spreads cc immunity much like pointless engineer mines

they are not pointless with tactic for disorient and/or right placement (healers in backline)
there not so much CC which haven't immune - cooldown increasers lke shatter limbs or bad gas and disorient. Both is pretty good against healers and casters at all.

I can count the amount of times i have seen a well placed mine over the last year, using nothing but my very unreal pet dragon

[NoRKaLKiLLa]

Choppa looks more menacing with 2h than marauder with 1hand1lobsterclaw.

[GodlessCrom]

Yeah but orcs look like trash. Because they are trash. You know what, **** rolling a marauder or a choppa.

Roll an Ironbreaker, and leave the orcs where they're meant to be. Face down in the dirt.

[venrik]

Choppa can do a **** tonne of damage, but it is limited. Yes, It needs a group to shine, and more than that, it needs the group (and yourself) to be ultra aware about any damage its taking. Personally, I still think its more fun to play than mara, but thats just me. If you like your dps to be balls to the wall, high pain for the gain, then give it a go. Just dont expect to be up there without getting a lot of focus and dying. Even in a solid group you will get tested first, because choppa lacks the pressure slayer gets from ID. It's a fun class in the right situation with the right mindset (Like a good group with attentive support). But if you think you can just run straight into backlines when pugging, then no, probably best roll something else.

[catholicism198]

GTDC is great for giving out free punt immunity. Order will love you for it.
My Choppa has 62.7% armor mitigation and hits like a wet noodle (300,) while my poorly geared Marauder can hit for 600-700. I enjoy the Choppa but I feel so useless.

[Darosh]

Yeah but orcs look like trash. Because they are trash. You know what, **** rolling a marauder or a choppa.

Roll an Ironbreaker, and leave the orcs where they're meant to be. Face down in the dirt.

Dwarf master race.

GTTC effectively disables punts for destro, just like Engis (root+pull) do for order...
You can effectively remove your punt from your hotbar, if you see Engis/Choppas in SCs - not just pug SC, sadly.

If I were to pick a class based on (paper) potency it'd be Mara. However, Choppa wins fashionhammer, imho, also: Orc tongue best tongue.

[TenTonHammer]

Orc tongue best tongue.

Phrasing

Also black orc fashionhammer > Choppa

[adamthelc]

GTDC has some uses, none of which are really great for higher end competitive play.

Its decent when WBs collide, especially when you have numbers and the other side is running.

In scenarios its really only kind of useful when you are stomping the other side, outside of some possible niche situations. Win more abilities are fun sometimes, but they dont really make a class more competitive.

Didnt Choppas have an armor debuff at some point? Did it get replaced by an incoming heal debuff?

Anyway Marauders have always had more utility and survivability than a Choppa, but Choppas used to have more damage. I dont really have any high end experience with either in their current state. But if Marauder does indeed have the same amount of damage as a Choppa, seems like it would be better in most situations.

Thats not to say the Choppa is bad, I just think the things that set them apart arent really valued. So they are mostly just brough for damage. And if you are only brought for damage and someone does the same and more, then its understandable why people are so down on them.

On paper an incoming and outgoing heal debuff along with a CD increaser seems like it would be good against a healer. I dont really play one so I will have to take the word of others that its a bad spec.

[Darks63]

Didnt Choppas have an armor debuff at some point? Did it get replaced by an incoming heal debuff?

Cant stop the chop used to be a armor debuff then the original devs mirrored it the slayers deep wound HD for some reason.