The Fix for Empty Keeps

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Dobzse
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The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#1 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:48 pm

There are a lot of times when Warhammer which we all love becomes waithammer,
this is especially problematic when you have to wait for any Order/Destro to show up at a keep siege.
I'd suggest that lvl40-46 champions should spawn and try to defend the keep the keep door in waves.
They should drop decent XP/Loot AAAANND more importantly Renown. To the question how much renown they should drop I'm not quite sure. But basecly the psychology behind renown that "any" is more then "none".

I really hope this gets implemented in some way, because there is no fun in empty keep sieges.
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#2 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:13 pm

get rid of zonepop addon.
or atleast block showing enemy numbers.
it's the reason that siege start only when enemy is low pop.
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#3 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:20 pm

Dobzse wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:48 pm There are a lot of times when Warhammer which we all love becomes waithammer,
this is especially problematic when you have to wait for any Order/Destro to show up at a keep siege.
I'd suggest that lvl40-46 champions should spawn and try to defend the keep the keep door in waves.
They should drop decent XP/Loot AAAANND more importantly Renown. To the question how much renown they should drop I'm not quite sure. But basecly the psychology behind renown that "any" is more then "none".

I really hope this gets implemented in some way, because there is no fun in empty keep sieges.
People will just start farming them for infinite renown/xp/gold and refrain from finishing off the lord.

The real solution is to stop letting one side log in if they significantly outnumber the opposition.

delcon
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#4 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:23 am

It’s peoples attitude that needs to be fixed ,
To many people want easy rewards , easy fights and just have a sheep mentality ,

If more people took the initiative to start wb,s get the peopl3 on discord , run wb builds and play an active role then this game would be more fun and fights would be of better quality ,

More wb leaders on coms means less zergs and more often they will defend a keep so you will not change sides ,

The devs can only do so much the r3st is up to the player base to make the game better ,

A little off topic but get more organised less empty keeps

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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#5 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:01 pm

More pve isn't the solution for rvdoor.
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Lileldys
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#6 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:28 pm

anarchypark wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:13 pm get rid of zonepop addon.
or atleast block showing enemy numbers.
it's the reason that siege start only when enemy is low pop.
This.

and hide AAO buff.

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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#7 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:54 pm

delcon wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:23 am It’s peoples attitude that needs to be fixed ,
To many people want easy rewards , easy fights and just have a sheep mentality ,

If more people took the initiative to start wb,s get the peopl3 on discord , run wb builds and play an active role then this game would be more fun and fights would be of better quality ,

More wb leaders on coms means less zergs and more often they will defend a keep so you will not change sides ,

The devs can only do so much the r3st is up to the player base to make the game better ,

A little off topic but get more organised less empty keeps
you are right the most want this easy rewards, and that is the issue, the players dont want strategy, they want just, how i can with minimalze do, the max rewards, and this with the keep problem, tere is no problem,..

small groups go in a other zone, to hope that can be split the enemy zerg. or to prepare the others zones, how many people know, how was that in live, if we had 2 zones prepare to a corrdinated attack 2 fotresses. many players forget how important is that preparing the zones, and the coominatication and coordinating i missing, and why we have less wb leaders are, the people dont hear the wb leaders and doing thewir own thing, many rvr problems, are player issues and not the problem from the system at the moment

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Dobzse
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#8 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:12 am

sorry you went a bit off topic, i'm talking about empty keeps not when there are players around or players in the RvR zone.
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#9 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:55 am

not sure about the easy rewards problem, I think i just want to be less bored at an empty siege thats all I wanted to focus this suggestion on. When there are simply nobody to fight at a keep just fill them with NPCs so people could lvl/get very low amount of renown. like 1 renown for each guard you kill.
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Re: The Fix for Empty Keeps

Post#10 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:45 pm

Fighting npcs is pretty boring to someone who wants to fight people. The renown gain, if the mobs respawned like now, would just encourage people farming npcs at keeps for easy rps. Especially in the off zones like the t2 zones when t4 is open.
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