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CorvusBlack
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We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#1 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:26 pm

We're sick of the AM spam going on right now, especially in t2/3 scenarios. It's boring playing against this brainless 6 healer bore fest going on.

Yes, there are many work around's, from setting up a premade(should be for t4 only) making a healer(we usually have 1, one more won't help) coordinated damage(I've tried asking dps to assist me with no avail) but it comes down to this class being spammed because it's grossly OP right now, in lower tiers anyway. 12 classes to choose from, 12 spots in the last sc i played and 5 are AM? plus more healers and not to mention the kotbs spam and wh spam. It's just spam this fotm spam that fotm ZzzzzZZZzZZzz

So what is the problem, prems in lower scens, can we stop that or do AM's need a serious fat reduction to make things healthier?
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Fallenkezef
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#2 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:06 pm

I'll be damned if I can see a suggestion in this whinefest of a post
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peterthepan3
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#3 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:12 pm

CorvusBlack wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:26 pm We're sick of the AM spam going on right now, especially in t2/3 scenarios. It's boring playing against this brainless 6 healer bore fest going on.

Yes, there are many work around's, from setting up a premade(should be for t4 only) making a healer(we usually have 1, one more won't help) coordinated damage(I've tried asking dps to assist me with no avail) but it comes down to this class being spammed because it's grossly OP right now, in lower tiers anyway. 12 classes to choose from, 12 spots in the last sc i played and 5 are AM? plus more healers and not to mention the kotbs spam and wh spam. It's just spam this fotm spam that fotm ZzzzzZZZzZZzz

So what is the problem, prems in lower scens, can we stop that or do AM's need a serious fat reduction to make things healthier?
Why should premades be stopped in lower scenarios because of an abundance of one class that is known to excel in pug situations, due to its combination of damage and healing? Unfortunately, lower tiers don't exactly have that many people queuing for sc - let alone a nice and healthy spread of different archetypes - so these situations (while annoying) are inevitable.
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Sulorie
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#4 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:14 pm

When you don't have 3-4 healer for 2 groups, then you have to play healer on your own. Whining doesn't fix bad sc setups.
Having 5 AM doesn't mean anything on a class with different spec options.
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Fallenkezef
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#5 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:42 pm

It's subjective anyway. Lost count of the SC's I've been in with order having a couple of dps "healers" while dessie are being kept up by 4 to 6 dedicated healbots
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CorvusBlack
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#6 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:05 pm

I played shammy on live, I know full well the price paid of bad setups in this game. 6 am's 5 engi's 5 wh's isn't bad set ups, it's cheese spam, or a premade in lower tiers taking the piddle.

Why should one class be allowed to completely negate 90% of the oppositions time in game to a few xp and emblems?

We all know AM in those scenarios are running riot and ruining everything, along with premades

No ones asking for free wins. People are getting sick and tired of fighting against a either a mindless spam of AM easy mode or a spam of some kind or premades, why can't that be taken to t4 where people have built a grounding in the game, have the teams, gear sets and everything needed to fairly counter any stupid AM fotm spam. Pushing newer players against that grotesque style of gameplay isn't friendly or fun, the only counter new players have to this gameplay is logging off... It's fine for people with hundreds of spare hours, a community to ask for assistance, luxury of not having the responsibility of a wife/kids/baby needing you at that very moment, being able to play without being disturbed, whatever..

So I'll stick with my suggestion for toning down AM's and stopping premades joining t2/3 scenarios to give newer players and (oh my god, dare he say it) casuals a better time in game.

If scenarios slow down then we will know those players only wanted to fight against pugs and not other premades.
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Wuu
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#7 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:22 pm

And then you get to T4 where every SC has Destro premade or the Destro has at least 4 healers and 4 tanks while Order has all rdps and maybe 1 WH as melee.
AMs are fine.

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HtGeist
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#8 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:45 pm

just limit healers in sc 1 for 1 can enter no side has more then other and everything is fine..aplly to pug sc...premades can do their lowblow stuff..and also gearscore cap t4pug sc..wanna pug dress like it sick of meeting rr80 we pugging but we normally play together 6 mans roflstomping pug sc.
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Sulorie
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#9 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:56 pm

HtGeist wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:45 pm just limit healers in sc 1 for 1 can enter no side has more then other and everything is fine..aplly to pug sc...premades can do their lowblow stuff..and also gearscore cap t4pug sc..wanna pug dress like it sick of meeting rr80 we pugging but we normally play together 6 mans roflstomping pug sc.
This would only work, if you count dps healer as rdps or mdps, without filling the healer slot.
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Yaliskah
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Re: We're sick of the cheese spam sandwiches

Post#10 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:58 pm

i Understand your suggestion, and it could be interesting. But prepare to see Sc pop very rarely in this case...

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