Debate about why Order is how it is.

[Crumbs]

here's my 2 cents of nonsense

[jokerspsycho]

Will say if SM didn't have to wear a dress I would definitely roll one.

[Charon]

Will say if SM didn't have to wear a dress I would definitely roll one.

Use female model, it helps

[jokerspsycho]

Will say if SM didn't have to wear a dress I would definitely roll one.

Use female model, it helps

Would still prefer armor on the front lines, even as a female, over a "battle dress"

[jvlosky]

Final point.

Shaman > AM = has wayy more kite potential, poor AM is dead in the water when caught with less availability.

SH > SW = I would love to see someone bring 4 SWs into a city and be as successful as someone bringing 4 mSH who can easily pounce and bounce with 5k armor lmao.



Don't be disingenuous. When reaching into a bag to form a group Order will be less competitive compared to Destro because Destro classes are more balanced in their composition than Order.

[mubbl]

Final point.

Shaman > AM = has wayy more kite potential, poor AM is dead in the water when caught with less availability.

SH > SW = I would love to see someone bring 4 SWs into a city and be as successful as someone bringing 4 mSH who can easily pounce and bounce with 5k armor lmao.



Don't be disingenuous. When reaching into a bag to form a group Order will be less competitive compared to Destro because Destro classes are more balanced in their composition than Order.

Yee there are more flat synergies on destro, but order also has extremly good ones, which are not used, even in premades most of the time.

[Acidic]

Final point.

Shaman > AM = has wayy more kite potential, poor AM is dead in the water when caught with less availability.

SH > SW = I would love to see someone bring 4 SWs into a city and be as successful as someone bringing 4 mSH who can easily pounce and bounce with 5k armor lmao.



Don't be disingenuous. When reaching into a bag to form a group Order will be less competitive compared to Destro because Destro classes are more balanced in their composition than Order.

Yee there are more flat synergies on destro, but order also has extremly good ones, which are not used, even in premades most of the time.

About sums this thread up, can’t play won’t play but want to win

[jvlosky]

Final point.

Shaman > AM = has wayy more kite potential, poor AM is dead in the water when caught with less availability.

SH > SW = I would love to see someone bring 4 SWs into a city and be as successful as someone bringing 4 mSH who can easily pounce and bounce with 5k armor lmao.



Don't be disingenuous. When reaching into a bag to form a group Order will be less competitive compared to Destro because Destro classes are more balanced in their composition than Order.

Yee there are more flat synergies on destro, but order also has extremly good ones, which are not used, even in premades most of the time.

About sums this thread up, can’t play won’t play but want to win

Still doesn't address the fact that 2 classes are pretty bunk on Order. You can't blame players for playing the class they enjoy. Some people don't follow the flavor of the month and shouldn't be punished for it.


Having someone play a mediocre poopy geared DPS AM is one thing and understandably will under-perform. But when you got AMs getting caught in their tracks in late game where that same Shaman would have 30% and auto detaunt, you can see where people who have invested a lot of time into a certain class could feel left wanting.

[Fey]

How no one thinks Run Between Worlds is comparable to run away mystifies me. Run Away is a meme tactic. Shaman and AM heal specs are well balanced. L2P

[growill]

How no one thinks Run Between Worlds is comparable to run away mystifies me. Run Away is a meme tactic. Shaman and AM heal specs are well balanced. L2P

says the shaman main