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Detangler
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City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#1 » Wed May 20, 2020 5:34 am

My suggestion for what the Matchmaker System should do for all leftover players in the Matchmaker System the moment a city siege is over:

Suggestion:

Dump all players in the city siege queue.

All of em. No matter if the person is solo/grouped, has even numbers, or any semblance of balanced archtype into a new scenario type. Name it something funnier/wittier referring to "Siege Over." Make a poll or something - who knows, maybe it'll be a good one. Runs the exact same rules as current siege mechanics with the current custom rules:

Renown rewards: yes!
Stage completion tokens: top scenario rewards (up to Oppressor) for either a total domination (8) or total defeat (2) - no royals.
Bag rewards: no
Quitter debuff: does not activate upon leaving

Why?

This suggestion would bring RoR an instanced scenario with good rewards for a win but crap for a defeat to all the players that the Matchmaker System left out.

Stages take a loooong time and not worth 2 tokens for 15 minutes of getting crapped on by the enemy. Does not penalize people to leave a lopsided loss, resulting in no tokens awarded for the end of the stage when everyone on one side quits.

How will it affect the overall oRvR campaign?


Probably not much if at all. At worst players get a long drawn out evenly matched firefight with oddball matchups on both sides. Mostikely it'll be a quick wipe and the losers will all log, resulting in the winners only receiving what they were doing it for: shits and giggles. :lol:

I humbly ask that you take this into consideration. For all of us pubbies.
Detangler and alts - 84 Chosen, other 40s - DoK, Zealot, SH, WE, BG, BO
Destro - Mostly Harmless
Tangler and alts - 8X IB, other 40s - RP, SM
Order - Most dishonorable

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Damndoriangray
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#2 » Wed May 20, 2020 6:39 am

Why not just play on the side that isn't terribly overpopulated and get a city regularly?

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Vayra
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#3 » Wed May 20, 2020 6:54 am

Damndoriangray wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 6:39 am Why not just play on the side that isn't terribly overpopulated and get a city regularly?
Because not all of us like playing both sides?
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Forkrul - DoK
Kalyth - BG

Damndoriangray
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#4 » Wed May 20, 2020 6:56 am

Well, enjoy the good and bad parts of the faction you chose. Having a consistently higher population may mean you're left out of equal queue required events.

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Telen
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#5 » Wed May 20, 2020 7:06 am

If you play the evil side in an mmo you know its going to be overpopulated.
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Detangler
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#6 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:37 pm

Damndoriangray wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 6:56 am Well, enjoy the good and bad parts of the faction you chose. Having a consistently higher population may mean you're left out of equal queue required events.
The population of each side changes over time. When I joined, Destro was consistently the underpopulated realm.

Even with perfect matchmaker algorithms and similar population on each side, there will always be a few leftover folks that didn't get matched up. This gives them something.
Detangler and alts - 84 Chosen, other 40s - DoK, Zealot, SH, WE, BG, BO
Destro - Mostly Harmless
Tangler and alts - 8X IB, other 40s - RP, SM
Order - Most dishonorable

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Telen
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#7 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:41 pm

Detangler wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 1:37 pm The population of each side changes over time. When I joined, Destro was consistently the underpopulated realm.
Destruction has always been the overpopulated side. Its just xrealmers who mostly have des mains were switching sides to push the campaign back and forth. Now with cities they all log their des mains for city.
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M0rw47h
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#8 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:43 pm

My suggestion is :
  • Make 30m ques and NOT start matches before everyone sign ups;
  • then give every player CS MMR, give Warbands MMR equal to average MMR of their members;
  • match Warbands vs Warbands first, if possible based on MMR;
  • then force 2/2/2 for PUGs, and match them based on MMR;
  • don't make CS instance for solo leftovers.

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Tillbeast
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#9 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Telen wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 7:06 am If you play the evil side in an mmo you know its going to be overpopulated.
But order is not over populated.

Tillbeast
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Re: City Siege matchmaker suggestion - Siege Over

Post#10 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:50 pm

Vayra wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 6:54 am
Damndoriangray wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 6:39 am Why not just play on the side that isn't terribly overpopulated and get a city regularly?
Because not all of us like playing both sides?
Destro for life.

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