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Sulorie
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#31 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:10 pm

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Being able to attend a rvr event, help guildies/friends yes ofc that is why i would like a no xp book but allowing players to stay in a tier at max level is bad, simple as that, twinks were hated for obvious reason and thats why most ppl will never wont no xp books.
What i fear ? isnt that obvious ? you could see the general feeling towards ppl who stayed in t1 or t3 on the old servers.
I don't know about what general hate towards twinks you are speaking. People stay in tiers to get the best possible renown rank before progressing to the next tier. Where is this twinking? You only farm renown to be ready for the next tier.
It's all about renown rank, because this gives you items.
You can't even do pve, because then you get a lot XP and no renown, what makes you weaker.
People might like to do quest lines while not gimping their pvp experience. ;)
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Bozzax
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#32 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:55 pm

Books only serves one purpose to have gear power advantage over other players.
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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KarlFranz
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#33 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:58 pm

Bozzax wrote:Books only serves one purpose to have gear power advantage over other players.

dood you said everything. (y)

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Ototo
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#34 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:58 pm

My opinion is way easier:

*Any lower character can jump in a higher tier and get boosted.

Even as lvl1 u can jump to t4 and being bolstered. Its all about PvP action, and nobody want to simply "farm" RR by getting empty objectives in Empire/Dwarf/Elf. What ppl wants is PvP action. Massive bolster is a better solution. U will probably jump to lvl10 in 2 t4 scenarios without much trouble if the exp is based in the rank diff, and all is done.

Also:

*All RvR armour sets under level 40 should be buyeable with gold.

Those are my 2 cents.
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Tesq
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#35 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:02 pm

@sulorie de-bolster/booster work fine for " bring ppl in t1", as i sad had issue with itiem scaling and set bonus as you point out which can be pretty easy fix, ppl used book to just easy farm pugs.
I dont give fault to no-one to loose cos i was a wh and i was solo roam and killed ppl all along so no loose for me. I'm only pointing out what ppl behaviour are.

BUT if not mistake the point of this thread is ---> allow "no xp book" cos that way t1-t3 will be full of ppl.!!!

That's wrong ppl will not stay there, they will never log their toon in t1-2-3 as long there is fight in t t4, unless there is a reason to go to t1-t3..... de-bolster event do that just fine. A lot better than no xp book. In fact how many ppl there were with no xp book in t2? zero, how many ppl there was in t3 with xp book? 3-6 pp rr 70+ with lotd weapon killing for easy renow and enjoy easy roll stomp pugs.
This is not what i called have a good pool of pp that make enjoyable the tiers.

Have only these to ppl have to have fun when they play? Cos it seems to me that it's normal for some of you allow a huge gap and had imbalance fight, cos this is the matter.

Just let ppl have an advantage an they will use it, and even exploit it if possible.

No, exp book was a bad solution for the t4 huge gap they created, exatly like TB was a bad solution for the crit creep they put with the same 1.4.0 patch.


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Khorvald
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#36 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:10 pm

Tesq wrote:BUT if not mistake the point of this thread is ---> allow "no xp book" cos that way t1-t3 will be full of ppl.!!!
That wasn't the point of the thread at all.

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Tesq
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#37 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:23 pm

Khorvald wrote:
Tesq wrote:BUT if not mistake the point of this thread is ---> allow "no xp book" cos that way t1-t3 will be full of ppl.!!!
That wasn't the point of the thread at all.
It has became at half of the thread when some ppl talk about it, cos indeed ask for a renow book to just easy farm is not a even need to be considered a thread point from the beggining... anyway....

-as i told if the point is more ppl in t1-t3 this is bad solution........
-if it's just have better renow there are still the same problems and THEN

Do you seriously think dev instead fx the power huge difference on t4 will make books? Just instead fix the problem they will make stuff in game that create other issues?

I think you are underestimate RoR dev. Situations like that will not happen they are not EA.
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Bozzax
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#38 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:26 pm

Im all for if no xp books lock you at the lowest level of each tier

Example T3 22-31 no xp book locks you at 22 :D
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A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Sulorie
Posts: 7461

Re: No Exp Book

Post#39 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:27 pm

Gear gap is such an easy excuse for losing in T2-3. -.-

Guess why T2 was empty. People rushed to T3, grind rats, because T3 locks gave more RP and being R32+, leeching T4 locks was possible as well. Doing this you increase your RR even faster.
I already said something about LotD, so complaining about that is a pretty weak argument.

Yes, de-bolstering every stat, proc, tactic, while fixing bugs, which were not even fixed on live. Yes, really easy task. So much easier than L2P and blocking LotD stuff for sub40 chars.

Btw, people only went T1 for the event quests. Basically it was like order on one BO, farming quest objectives and destro at another BO, doing the same. The RvR got old after a few days.
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Khorvald
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Re: No Exp Book

Post#40 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:46 pm

Tesq wrote:
Khorvald wrote:
Tesq wrote:BUT if not mistake the point of this thread is ---> allow "no xp book" cos that way t1-t3 will be full of ppl.!!!
That wasn't the point of the thread at all.
It has became at half of the thread when some ppl talk about it, cos indeed ask for a renow book to just easy farm is not a even need to be considered a thread point from the beggining... anyway....

-as i told if the point is more ppl in t1-t3 this is bad solution........
-if it's just have better renow there are still the same problems and THEN

Do you seriously think dev instead fx the power huge difference on t4 will make books? Just instead fix the problem they will make stuff in game that create other issues?

I think you are underestimate RoR dev. Situations like that will not happen they are not EA.
As I and others have already stated, T1 through T3 will eventually have population issues no matter what. That is not the point of the book or this thread. The point is to make sure that you don't level out of a tier before you've capped your RR. If the RoR devs have something else planned to address the power gaps vanilla WAR had then great. However, I haven't seen them talk about it and that's why I created this thread.

@Bozzax: I would be ok with that but then you wouldn't be able to cap your RR which is the whole point of the item.

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