Rework Squig Herder/Shadow Warrior ideas

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Sounds like a completely broken mSH isn't enough for you, you also want to badly overpower rSH....
Sorry but your suggestions are completly missing the balacing aspect

Says a White Lion...

It's not like if Devs were going to read my post and implement 100% of what I suggest, what i think more is, if they care, they could pick up a few ideas from here and try to implement it as if they were aiming for something balanced and not too powerful. I can understand your point of view because you play Order, as well when the SW got buffed, destruction also said it was out of balanced, it's normal that order players come to this kind of post to try throw shade at it and i completely get it, you guys play order, of course you won't like that a rSH could kill you. And regarding to your mSH comment, the melee squig is a completely other toon almost, we are here to talk about the Ranged, because personally, i enjoy way more the ranged squig and i don't feel quite alright if the ranged bow career from destruction side is meant to be played as a melee aoe spec, ain't that off putting? That's why i'm here posting this, to improve the ranged spec!

[thedonkeykong332]

Sounds like a completely broken mSH isn't enough for you, you also want to badly overpower rSH....
Sorry but your suggestions are completly missing the balacing aspect

Says a White Lion...

It's not like if Devs were going to read my post and implement 100% of what I suggest, what i think more is, if they care, they could pick up a few ideas from here and try to implement it as if they were aiming for something balanced and not too powerful.

So why not suggest something reasonable normal & balanced in the first place?

[Lithenir]

Sounds like a completely broken mSH isn't enough for you, you also want to badly overpower rSH....
Sorry but your suggestions are completly missing the balacing aspect

Says a White Lion...

And regarding to your mSH comment, the melee squig is a completely other toon almost, we are here to talk about the Ranged, because personally, i enjoy way more the ranged squig and i don't feel quite alright if the ranged bow career from destruction side is meant to be played as a melee aoe spec, ain't that off putting? That's why i'm here posting this, to improve the ranged spec!

This is were you're totally wrong. It's still the same toon. You cannot buff the range spec until it's overpowered AND let the mSH stay as broken as it is now. The SW got buffed yes, but the mSW never was as good as mSH. So to balance it out you have to take things away from mSH to legitimately buff the rSH.

And about your "says the white lion, would be bad if rSH could kill you"... Guess what, they already can, but I guess you are living in the destro "white lion is so op" mystical world.... I understand, it's bad that a class made for hunting down squishy targets actually can do it.

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So why not suggest something reasonable normal & balanced in the first place?

Thereporter, you play a DPS Shaman, rSH buffes will only benefits you. But anyway, you are here throwing shade because you got kicked out from the guild for being rude, get over it.

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This is were you're totally wrong. It's still the same toon. You cannot buff the range spec until it's overpowered AND let the mSH stay as broken as it is now. The SW got buffed yes, but the mSW never was as good as mSH. So to balance it out you have to take things away from mSH to legitimately buff the rSH.

mSH = AoE dps / mSW = ST dps. Both are great at that particular role. Take in consideration that mSH is somehow a mirror to WL.

By your reasoning of buffing rSH you have to nerf mSH. Why don't apply that logic to mSW?...of course not, because it's not logical. Ranged specs are totally different from Melee specs. But somehow now mSW got buffed and benefits from Ranged rework.

mSH can't use ranged abilities, there's no logic in nerfing it to buff Ranged.

[Jastojan]

Sounds like a completely broken mSH isn't enough for you, you also want to badly overpower rSH....
Sorry but your suggestions are completly missing the balacing aspect

Says a White Lion...

And regarding to your mSH comment, the melee squig is a completely other toon almost, we are here to talk about the Ranged, because personally, i enjoy way more the ranged squig and i don't feel quite alright if the ranged bow career from destruction side is meant to be played as a melee aoe spec, ain't that off putting? That's why i'm here posting this, to improve the ranged spec!

This is were you're totally wrong. It's still the same toon. You cannot buff the range spec until it's overpowered AND let the mSH stay as broken as it is now. The SW got buffed yes, but the mSW never was as good as mSH. So to balance it out you have to take things away from mSH to legitimately buff the rSH.

And about your "says the white lion, would be bad if rSH could kill you"... Guess what, they already can, but I guess you are living in the destro "white lion is so op" mystical world.... I understand, it's bad that a class made for hunting down squishy targets actually can do it.

mSH broken? So if it is so, WL is more broken.
Back to ranged SH. It realy needs more love to be viable and needed in warbnds. Rework is very needed. How come the rSH to be SO SO even if top equipped? Even top equipped players choose mSH instead od ranged spec if they want to get place in CIty and deal dmg equal of other dpses. RSH needs buff no doubt. If not, you will only see mSH everywhere ...like now.

[Jastojan]

This is were you're totally wrong. It's still the same toon. You cannot buff the range spec until it's overpowered AND let the mSH stay as broken as it is now. The SW got buffed yes, but the mSW never was as good as mSH. So to balance it out you have to take things away from mSH to legitimately buff the rSH.

mSH = AoE dps / mSW = ST dps. Both are great at that particular role. Take in consideration that mSH is somehow a mirror to WL.

By your reasoning of buffing rSH you have to nerf mSH. Why don't apply that logic to mSW?...of course not, because it's not logical. Ranged specs are totally different from Melee specs. But somehow now mSW got buffed and benefits from Ranged rework.

mSH can't use ranged abilities, there's no logic in nerfing it to buff Ranged.

I dont understnd that logic too. There is no logic in it.

[Gratka]

Every class is made for something. Ranged SH is made for kiting, roaming, single target annoying pain in the ass. If you don't like this style don't play this class or just go broken mSH. Same story with WH. Great for single target, solo roam, ganking, not really for wb play beside scouting. You can't buff anything to be viable in wb because there will be lack of difference between classes if everyone could do just aoe dmg.

[thedonkeykong332]

So why not suggest something reasonable normal & balanced in the first place?

Thereporter, you play a DPS Shaman, rSH buffes will only benefits you. But anyway, you are here throwing shade because you got kicked out from the guild for being rude, get over it.

Don't see how rsh buffs benefit me, regardless that's the not the topic here.

First of all no one kicked me out of the guild I left it by myself.
2nd of all, I have pictures of who was rude to whom, so don't embarrass yourself please
3rd of all, I'm just asking you reasonable question no need to get so excited, quoting you "It's not like if Devs were going to read my post and implement 100% of what I suggest"

my question to you is, if you want a balance why not suggest something normal & reasonable? that's all I asked.

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So why not suggest something reasonable normal & balanced in the first place?

Thereporter, you play a DPS Shaman, rSH buffes will only benefits you. But anyway, you are here throwing shade because you got kicked out from the guild for being rude, get over it.

First of all no one kicked me out of the guild I left it by myself.
2nd of all, I have pictures of who was rude to whom, so don't embarrass yourself please
3rd of all, I'm just asking you reasonable question no need to get so excited, quoting you "It's not like if Devs were going to read my post and implement 100% of what I suggest"
my question to you is, if you want a balance why not suggest something normal & reasonable? that's all I asked brah.

I'm a sincere person for example, if I ask for a certain balance I will make sure it's balanced (because as a *Sincere* person I don't even want to play something that is broken&ez), and not something OP & Broken for ez game & play.

I understand you're not a mature person, that is fine. But If you make a balanced post and actually want to help the dev team and the game or even just yourself, at least make a useful & logical post. This is a free project, there is no me me meme I I I I you understand? You see I'm not the only one talking against you, because you make zero valid arguments, This is literally your argument and I quote: "I would like for the rSH to be better and more fun to play"

I would like for dps shaman to have full non cooldown aoe obviously for warband play, no healing deduction whatsoever, on this note please remove slow from healing tree, and overall just buff me more because you know, I would like and I quote "to better and more fun to play". yeah I'm not a saint if this actually happens I would like thanks guys yeah? but overall my class is fine, I'm more single target dps I have little aoe, I would probably only remove healing deduction from touch of gork, but that's it basically, even the other day I placed #2 dps in city and not from destro but from the entire scenario and yeah I was 30k from 1st

I really suggest you to actually think about how you can buff your class in a normal way, or let the devs do the job and you can leave a *proper* feedback.

That's a lot of personal issues right there to unfold.