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farng84
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#61 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:42 pm

Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:37 pm
farng84 wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Sorry but it is just true, choppa might have more HP but it is more brittle
So if you keep saying it suddenly it becomes more true? Choppa can have more wounds than slayer, same armour same mechanic, many of the abilities like to reduce enemy crit and increase toughness are mirrored. As far as I can see Choppa has more survivability than slayer, with GTDC they don't ever need to extend. How often do you see a Slayer run after a Shammy then get melted because they over extend? How often do you see a Choppa do the same with AM or RP? never
I asked it several times, I will ask it again. How many choppas do you need to chop a slayer? If they are identical as you say the answer should be 1 (sometimes you win, sometimes you lose as long ask skill and equip are comparable).
Is it 1 the right answer at the moment?

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Grimstuck
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#62 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:43 pm

i don't think so its 2 choppa for 1 slayer

every time a slayer engage me, he rect me

on my black orc every time slayer engage me, he rect me

we can't do nothing
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Gurf
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#63 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pm

Grimstuck wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:40 pm
Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:37 pm
farng84 wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Sorry but it is just true, choppa might have more HP but it is more brittle
So if you keep saying it suddenly it becomes more true? Choppa can have more wounds than slayer, same armour same mechanic, many of the abilities like to reduce enemy crit and increase toughness are mirrored. As far as I can see Choppa has more survivability than slayer, with GTDC they don't ever need to extend. How often do you see a Slayer run after a Shammy then get melted because they over extend? How often do you see a Choppa do the same with AM or RP? never
can u read or what ? do you see the M1 of Choppa and Slayer ?
do you know Slayer can Parry and choppa not ? ( thx rampage )
Choppa M1 absorb 3600 damage over 20 seconds? looks pretty decent to me, Slayer avoid damage for 5 seconds, very short time. Same parry M1, don't see any issue

I and most slayer would be perfectly happy if you remove GTDC and Rampage, then see who benefits the most.

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Gurf
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#64 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:48 pm

Grimstuck wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:43 pm i don't think so its 2 choppa for 1 slayer

every time a slayer engage me, he rect me

on my black orc every time slayer engage me, he rect me

we can't do nothing
If you get beaten by a slayer 1 on 1 with a Black Ork then there is nothing more we can say

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farng84
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#65 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:48 pm

Grimstuck wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:43 pm i don't think so its 2 choppa for 1 slayer
2 and a half or so, but 2 choppas easily lose let the slayer leave with about 1/4-1/5 life left (unless they start the fight on their condition, possibly). Or at least that is what I saw

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Grimstuck
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#66 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:49 pm

Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Grimstuck wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:40 pm
Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:37 pm

So if you keep saying it suddenly it becomes more true? Choppa can have more wounds than slayer, same armour same mechanic, many of the abilities like to reduce enemy crit and increase toughness are mirrored. As far as I can see Choppa has more survivability than slayer, with GTDC they don't ever need to extend. How often do you see a Slayer run after a Shammy then get melted because they over extend? How often do you see a Choppa do the same with AM or RP? never
can u read or what ? do you see the M1 of Choppa and Slayer ?
do you know Slayer can Parry and choppa not ? ( thx rampage )
Choppa M1 absorb 3600 damage over 20 seconds? looks pretty decent to me, Slayer avoid damage for 5 seconds, very short time. Same parry M1, don't see any issue

I and most slayer would be perfectly happy if you remove GTDC and Rampage, then see who benefits the most.

lets do that go remove gtdc and rampage NP


have u see how many time make our 3600 absorbe shield to melt in 12 man or 24 man ? i let you think how many seconds in fortress ....

5s u can get into fortress funnel like butter

5 s unkillable is more OP

the only things we have is a better look

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Gurf
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#67 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:50 pm

farng84 wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:42 pm
Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:37 pm
farng84 wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Sorry but it is just true, choppa might have more HP but it is more brittle
So if you keep saying it suddenly it becomes more true? Choppa can have more wounds than slayer, same armour same mechanic, many of the abilities like to reduce enemy crit and increase toughness are mirrored. As far as I can see Choppa has more survivability than slayer, with GTDC they don't ever need to extend. How often do you see a Slayer run after a Shammy then get melted because they over extend? How often do you see a Choppa do the same with AM or RP? never
I asked it several times, I will ask it again. How many choppas do you need to chop a slayer? If they are identical as you say the answer should be 1 (sometimes you win, sometimes you lose as long ask skill and equip are comparable).
Is it 1 the right answer at the moment?
So what you are moaning about is that Slayer beats Choppa in 1 vs 1 because of Rampage, who cares the game isn't balance around 1 v 1 . Just about every 2 handed tank beats slayer 1 v 1 , Slayer is free RP for most WE and Magus and Shammy.

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farng84
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#68 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:51 pm

Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Grimstuck wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:40 pm
Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:37 pm

So if you keep saying it suddenly it becomes more true? Choppa can have more wounds than slayer, same armour same mechanic, many of the abilities like to reduce enemy crit and increase toughness are mirrored. As far as I can see Choppa has more survivability than slayer, with GTDC they don't ever need to extend. How often do you see a Slayer run after a Shammy then get melted because they over extend? How often do you see a Choppa do the same with AM or RP? never
can u read or what ? do you see the M1 of Choppa and Slayer ?
do you know Slayer can Parry and choppa not ? ( thx rampage )
Choppa M1 absorb 3600 damage over 20 seconds? looks pretty decent to me, Slayer avoid damage for 5 seconds, very short time. Same parry M1, don't see any issue

I and most slayer would be perfectly happy if you remove GTDC and Rampage, then see who benefits the most.
Sorry but during the fight that 3600 HP get melted in less than a second. If you could fight an additional 4sec you could make wonders

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Gurf
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#69 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:53 pm

farng84 wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:51 pm
Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Grimstuck wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:40 pm

can u read or what ? do you see the M1 of Choppa and Slayer ?
do you know Slayer can Parry and choppa not ? ( thx rampage )
Choppa M1 absorb 3600 damage over 20 seconds? looks pretty decent to me, Slayer avoid damage for 5 seconds, very short time. Same parry M1, don't see any issue

I and most slayer would be perfectly happy if you remove GTDC and Rampage, then see who benefits the most.
Sorry but during the fight that 3600 HP get melted in less than a second. If you could fight an additional 4sec you could make wonders
If you are talking about forts and keeps mdps get stuck in the door for about 5 seconds , then melt in about 2 once inside

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Grimstuck
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Re: Choppa's Pull

Post#70 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:54 pm

Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:50 pm
farng84 wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:42 pm
Gurf wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:37 pm

So if you keep saying it suddenly it becomes more true? Choppa can have more wounds than slayer, same armour same mechanic, many of the abilities like to reduce enemy crit and increase toughness are mirrored. As far as I can see Choppa has more survivability than slayer, with GTDC they don't ever need to extend. How often do you see a Slayer run after a Shammy then get melted because they over extend? How often do you see a Choppa do the same with AM or RP? never
I asked it several times, I will ask it again. How many choppas do you need to chop a slayer? If they are identical as you say the answer should be 1 (sometimes you win, sometimes you lose as long ask skill and equip are comparable).
Is it 1 the right answer at the moment?
So what you are moaning about is that Slayer beats Choppa in 1 vs 1 because of Rampage, who cares the game isn't balance around 1 v 1 . Just about every 2 handed tank beats slayer 1 v 1 , Slayer is free RP for most WE and Magus and Shammy.
choppa is free RP for every class in the game
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