Fort Population Cap

[M0rw47h]

More and more often we see prefort zones, e.g. Reikland with only 40-50 defenders. Then, we see suddenly 150 defenders in Reikwald.
In my opinion, only people who CONTRIBUTED in prefort zone should be allowed to get inside (read: get reservation) and people who had no contribution shouldn't be allowed to enter, even if population in the fort is "unbalanced". On top of that, bottom of 25% contributors shouldn't be allowed to enter fort, regardless of numbers, to avoid people doing one kill or running one supply box feeling safe getting inside. Thus, in case there are only 40 people defending Reikland, only 30 defenders would be allowed to enter, and no single person more.

[Runiz]

Agreed. The late trend of people not showing up for zones but for forts is killing t4 imo. It's just one endless stalemate until someone manages to push city at 3-5 am EU.

[sioding]

Nope - never ever. That would mean the over populated realm wins always. If a fort i attacked all member of the realm should be able to defend it. Yes the ones with contribution from the zone at first - but also the guys who are doing scenarios/PvE or whatever. A fort is the last stage before the city. It is important to defend it.

[M0rw47h]

Nope - never ever. That would mean the over populated realm wins always. If a fort i attacked all member of the realm should be able to defend it. Yes the ones with contribution from the zone at first - but also the guys who are doing scenarios/PvE or whatever. A fort is the last stage before the city. It is important to defend it.

How overpopulated realm would always win?
I don't mean to remove current cap, just to don't give invitations for last minute leechers.

[diedrake]

If OP was talking about the fort in reik last night and stonewatch... I can tell that OP that the guild that clamed reik keep was there throughout the day and all of them had a reservation for both forts.

I understand OP idea, esspecially if they just logged on and only took riek with a handful of destro. But again i know about 2-3 wbs that were defending that zone threoughout the day.

[Vri]

If OP was talking about the fort in reik last night and stonewatch... I can tell that OP that the guild that clamed reik keep was there throughout the day and all of them had a reservation for both forts.

I understand OP idea, esspecially if they just logged on and only took riek with a handful of destro. But again i know about 2-3 wbs that were defending that zone threoughout the day.

I was in Stonewatch last night and it was a complete fail after Destro in Riekland called and or asked for more. We lost in Stonewatch and the keep in Riekland had a number of resets.

I do not feel that limiting Forts, is a good idea. We need everyone, no matter what.

[diedrake]

If OP was talking about the fort in reik last night and stonewatch... I can tell that OP that the guild that clamed reik keep was there throughout the day and all of them had a reservation for both forts.

I understand OP idea, esspecially if they just logged on and only took riek with a handful of destro. But again i know about 2-3 wbs that were defending that zone threoughout the day.

I was in Stonewatch last night and it was a complete fail after Destro in Riekland called and or asked for more. We lost in Stonewatch and the keep in Riekland had a number of resets.

I do not feel that limiting Forts, is a good idea. We need everyone, no matter what.

Personally, i like the fact forts limit the amount of players allowed. If there wasnt a limit we would have 2-400 destro attacking with only 1-200 order defending like how the lakes have been. Comming from the underdog pov, if no limits on population, the over populated faction would win all forms of pvp minus scs and lately cities.

That would cause the underdogs to posibly reroll to overpopulated side and then no contest, no pvp in rvr it be pveing keeps/ forts.

[diedrake]

As is from order side pov, when destro failed stonewatch had many leave to run to reik fort for the "easy win" but in doing so also helped order side by allowing more deffenders to come to reik.

If destro didnt leave and join riek, allowing more order to come defend, i am sure destro would have won as destro was on lord.

[Naelar]

If OP was talking about the fort in reik last night and stonewatch... I can tell that OP that the guild that clamed reik keep was there throughout the day and all of them had a reservation for both forts.

I understand OP idea, esspecially if they just logged on and only took riek with a handful of destro. But again i know about 2-3 wbs that were defending that zone threoughout the day.

I was in Stonewatch last night and it was a complete fail after Destro in Riekland called and or asked for more. We lost in Stonewatch and the keep in Riekland had a number of resets.

I do not feel that limiting Forts, is a good idea. We need everyone, no matter what.

The destro in Reik did not call for more to come help. In fact, the leadership told folks to stay away from it. It was one dumbass that said 'Hey, come to Reikwald'. Because about 40 lemmings did so, it allowed at least a full wb of Order to WAR report directly to the fort, where they broke the jail and wiped everyone there. Had folks not quit on Stonewatch so quickly, Reikwald would have fallen. Seems to be the destro motto lately, though. "When the going gets tough, quit".

[M0rw47h]

I don't even know what you're talking about, but whatever. This topic is about people avoiding oRvR just to show up in forts and not contributing to the campaign.