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hammerhead
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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#61 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:55 pm

farng84 wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:14 pm Sorry mate but I keep finding your answers offtopic and very partial. I also strongly disagree regarding destro overperforming in cities due to having better tanks, which is honestly debateable as a point.
I'm happy to agree with good points against destro as I did often (even in this post), but you are making the discussion a sterile one.
Anyway, nothing of this is on topic for the premise of the OP; we should stop
This topic has such blurred boundaries that we could easily move on to discussing the local weather and why I skip the siege today, although I tried to be substantive as best I could and only noted the superiority of time spent on one side. However, I respect your request.
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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#62 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:57 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:36 pm
Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:25 pm
Did Order get more organised? = Yes
Were order forced to reroll to compete? = Yes
Are Destro willing to do the same? = No
Did marauder Morale drain nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did marauder AOE dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did morale dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did zealot M4 nerfed caused by order whine? YES

Lets act like nothing of listed before never happened to help one faction to "compete"? YES
Sorry for wedging in, but I hasten to notice you also forgot the Wind of Insanity nerf for completeness.
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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#63 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:12 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:36 pm
Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:25 pm
Did Order get more organised? = Yes
Were order forced to reroll to compete? = Yes
Are Destro willing to do the same? = No
Did marauder Morale drain nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did marauder AOE dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did morale dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did zealot M4 nerfed caused by order whine? YES

Lets act like nothing of listed before never happened to help one faction to "compete"? YES
You talk like those weren't issues, Mara is still meta for Destro now and that is after the nerfs, imagine how OP they were before, even the good experienced Mara players on Destro admitted they were OP
How did Zealot m4 get Nerfed? its still completely OP right now and needs looking at by the Devs
Did Destro whine get WL nerfed ? Yes, the WL whine was never ending from Destro side

You really think the game is better off before Morale nerf when all you need to do is charge morale quickly then morale bomb, the first side to do so wins, nothing inventive or difficult in that gameplay. Its hardly a one sided thing, Order guilds like Line by Line were using morale bomb to obliterate stacks of pugs regularly.

Rapzel
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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#64 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:23 pm

Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:12 pm Order guilds like Line by Line were using morale bomb to obliterate stacks of pugs regularly.
PUGS, lbl obliterated PUGS with morale.

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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#65 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:36 pm

Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:12 pm
emiliorv wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:36 pm
Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:25 pm
Did Order get more organised? = Yes
Were order forced to reroll to compete? = Yes
Are Destro willing to do the same? = No
Did marauder Morale drain nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did marauder AOE dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did morale dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did zealot M4 nerfed caused by order whine? YES

Lets act like nothing of listed before never happened to help one faction to "compete"? YES
You talk like those weren't issues, Mara is still meta for Destro now and that is after the nerfs, imagine how OP they were before, even the good experienced Mara players on Destro admitted they were OP
How did Zealot m4 get Nerfed? its still completely OP right now and needs looking at by the Devs
Did Destro whine get WL nerfed ? Yes, the WL whine was never ending from Destro side

You really think the game is better off before Morale nerf when all you need to do is charge morale quickly then morale bomb, the first side to do so wins, nothing inventive or difficult in that gameplay. Its hardly a one sided thing, Order guilds like Line by Line were using morale bomb to obliterate stacks of pugs regularly.
Oh yes...stacks of slayers spamming undefendable aoe dmg is not a issue...nah that is ok.
How did Zealot m4 get Nerfed? => you need to read the patchnotes better. But yes, got nerfed.
there is a easy counter to morale drops => SPREAD OUT

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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#66 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:37 pm

Rapzel wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:23 pm
Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:12 pm Order guilds like Line by Line were using morale bomb to obliterate stacks of pugs regularly.
PUGS, lbl obliterated PUGS with morale.
Well it was hard for them to obliterate the good des guilds as it is impossible to get morale before them, and that was the deciding factor... see how lame such gameplay was? It didn't matter if you have a super organised high rr warband if the other side got morale faster then you its over

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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#67 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:48 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:36 pm
Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:25 pm
Did Order get more organised? = Yes
Were order forced to reroll to compete? = Yes
Are Destro willing to do the same? = No
Did marauder Morale drain nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did marauder AOE dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did morale dmg nerfed caused by order whine? YES
Did zealot M4 nerfed caused by order whine? YES

Lets act like nothing of listed before never happened to help one faction to "compete"? YES
You also forgot;

Did choppa get nerfed because order whine? YES

Did slayer get nerfed because destro whine? NO

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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#68 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:55 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:36 pm
Oh yes...stacks of slayers spamming undefendable aoe dmg is not a issue...nah that is ok.
Its a disaster, Order won 11 out of 20 Cities twice in the space of six months, must nerf Order now to make it fair :o

If you call Order winning slightly more Cities than Destro a few times in a year an issue then we have different ideas about game balance. I'm sure many want it back like the old days where any scrub player could rock up and join the Destro melee train and win 75% of City barely doing anything, and that is their idea of a balanced game.

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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#69 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:55 pm

Gurf wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:37 pm Well it was hard for them to obliterate the good des guilds as it is impossible to get morale before them, and that was the deciding factor... see how lame such gameplay was? It didn't matter if you have a super organised high rr warband if the other side got morale faster then you its over
A super organized high rr warband who dont know how to spread to avoid a morale drop?

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Re: Please Fix AOE

Post#70 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:07 pm

Fix the AOE so that we can't just walk in, grab what we want and leave.
This is what the topic should have been called. Look here. This is a screenshot from the test of the city (sorry did not remove the nicknames). Everyone was happy with the very fact that it happened at all. They rejoiced like little children for the new year. And where is this fighting brotherhood now? Have you traded the spirit of war for pixels? Maybe you need a game on your smartphone where you will collect colorful rubies for a small amount? Now, at least, there is an atmosphere of opposition, while the game is balancing all the time so as not to slide down to soft win-trading. Pixels are the reason for all heresy.
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