Whats going on with Destro?

[Petsouris]

Why destro sucks is the question.
There are quite a few reasons why a faction overwhelming the other.

1. Who has the numbers of premades. Both rvr and sc.
2. Who has the proper setup. (Lets keep a simple 2_2_2)
3. Which side plays their class to the fullest. No comment on tanks no guarding, just quit.
4. Who has the brains to make certain moves in the right moment. I encountered countless times destro spawning ram after a successful defence while numbers are equal.
5. Mentality of players after a failure. That applies to both realms.
6. Quantity of pug warbands AND quality + dedication of puglords. Atm order has the scales on their side.
7. Finally but not least destro need their King.
Wake up Ocara from his slumber.v

Instead of complaining and whining be a tryhard, try joining semi premades, if you cannot find MAKE one yourself. If you don't have exp leading don't worry, you will do it better than afk wbs in keeps. Join an active guild even for small scale.
If nothing works for you quit and play Bomberman. You are too soft for this game

[Gurf]

Destro probably just need a new leader or new guild, for example Fog of War was started only maybe around 4-6 months ago from scratch, they did a lot of recruiting of lower tier guildless players and at the start they were fighting with many of their players in bad gear, not very experienced etc and i'm sure took plenty of beatings against full Sov Warbands. Few months later the players are geared up and they can compete in the lakes and now recruit the classes/level of what they need. One other guild like that and Gitbane may actually have some help in the lakes and could easily turn the tide, then you will see all the easymode x-realmers jump ship to destro pretty quickly.

[abezverkhiy]

Just stop whinging. Order has its own issues, we are also being farmed in sc’s, we have hysterical pricks who purposely fail sieges when they don’t like state of things, we lack tanks and have too many rdps. We have own issues too.

You can’t compete because you are new to the game, this game is different from other mmos because they are pve oriented and this game is pvp oriented. You need to pick your fights, use terrain and learn other classes and theorycraft. You can get mediocre gear reasonably fast but devs made top gear easier to get. Best experience comes from team play here so get yourself a few friends.

WAR/ROR is a beautiful world but you need to forget things you learned in other MMOs

[Bignusty]

I'm agree whit you but the big problem is the Xrealming, and how the system working dev need to change that.

[zulnam]

Just stop whinging. Order has its own issues, we are also being farmed in sc’s, we have hysterical pricks who purposely fail sieges when they don’t like state of things, we lack tanks and have too many rdps. We have own issues too.

You can’t compete because you are new to the game, this game is different from other mmos because they are pve oriented and this game is pvp oriented. You need to pick your fights, use terrain and learn other classes and theorycraft. You can get mediocre gear reasonably fast but devs made top gear easier to get. Best experience comes from team play here so get yourself a few friends.

WAR/ROR is a beautiful world but you need to forget things you learned in other MMOs

I can't upvote but i'll just quote this because it's very correct.

RoR is never gonna be 100% balanced. you have 24 classes, 72 talent trees. But it is balanced enough that no faction is permanently dominant. Both sides have highs and lows in the RvR lakes, depending on population fluctuation and availability of organised Warbands.

It's a team game and you have to play it that way; otherwise it can be rather ruthless. You gotta join warbands/guilds/alliances running comms, you gotta play your situation-spec (different sometimes between SC, RvR or city) and also play your gear. For example, a lot of tanks have strong 2H builds but if you're a new 40 and go out in the world in mercenary/dominator you're gonna have a bad time.

[Seravajan]

Both sides have their issues. Destru has very strong tanks and mDPS. While Order has good rDPS and healers. Desru suffers in the rDPS department due rSH is weak, the sorc is a quite tuned down version of the BW and lacks some utility BW has. Magus has their own issues. But try to kill a very well equipped BO or Choppa while playing on order side. They are very tough meat to get thru. One thing to note: If you play a squishy class (WE, Sorc, Magus and so on) expect to die a lot because you will be considered an easy target to kill.

[wargrimnir]

This ebbs and flows. There was a long period where Destro whooped ass constantly. Yall need should check out this post on city tracker from a while back

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39836

I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up that post that shows destro with a 70% win rate in cities. My how the tables turn tables.

[Hardkoar]

As with any faction based pvp game the imbalance will just get worse as everyone will jump to the winning side.

No, I will just quit. No guild. Guilds want geared lvl 40's. Cant afford decent armor, surely cannot afford 98g for a fkn +11 talisman. Cannot compete as a lower level against lvl 39's with good armor, money, and guilds. Combining T2, 3 and 4 is just dumb. Its no fun to get farmed every single SC.

Oh! ... oh ... so you haven't even gotten to experience being a fresh 40 yet.

On topic:
What you can see from this post is rather simple :

Order players be like : lp2, git gud, u live in a basement
Destro players : they keep nerfing us, we have no balance, we will quit and wont bother with fort/cities, fk xrealmers

[Abe]

This ebbs and flows. There was a long period where Destro whooped ass constantly. Yall need should check out this post on city tracker from a while back

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39836

I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up that post that shows destro with a 70% win rate in cities. My how the tables turn tables.

The tables didn't just turn, they were turned by someone eh. Just a wag, earlier destro nerf and order buff following the posting of that information, but standby for fort stats.

[wargrimnir]

This ebbs and flows. There was a long period where Destro whooped ass constantly. Yall need should check out this post on city tracker from a while back

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39836

I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up that post that shows destro with a 70% win rate in cities. My how the tables turn tables.

The tables didn't just turn, they were turned by someone eh. Just a wag, earlier destro nerf and order buff following the posting of that information, but standby for fort stats.

Destro nerf and order buff right? I like how those are just really vaguely stated, and the last guy who tried to list changes to make his point brought up stuff from 9 months ago, not the past three. Why can't you guys accept that your leadership has vanished and the ability to be successful is largely based around coordinating your allies? Did anyone keep note of the dates/weeks when this change happened? Maybe you really should read through the old post on all the reasons why, allegedly, order was failing and the suggestions they were provided to do something about it.

Here's a narrative supporting list of changes that were not mirrored to both sides. Please note there are no Order nerfs or Destro buffs listed because that wouldn't be appropriate for this thread. Some real gamebreaking stuff here.

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