Patch Notes 05/11/2020

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Josewales
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#101 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:46 pm

Must be a lot of crit on the future trinkets and Sov weap to give balance. :P

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CountTalabecland
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#102 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:48 pm

Spoiler:
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:40 pm
Gurf wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:37 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:32 pm

I got 53% on SW, and thats without even bothering with Sentinel. Around 65% in case of "baby" BW in Onslaught.
Add to it +5% from DT and +10% from OS, assuming not playing with random pugs... so it would be 68% for SW and 80% in case of BW, reducing it by 25% won't hurt as much...
You can see the Slayers in the Construct thread and ask players like Ravezaar and Toshutkidup high rr Slayers are usually running between 11-15% crit as they have to invest their renown into WS

So what you are saying is that this change will probably hit Order mdps harder than the ranged.... great
Slayers are the most overperforming class in the game, so its fine.
Slayers at most, will have 2 ranks of Opportunist at RR80. With Full Invader and, lets say, fortress axes, they have +20% chance to crit. Same goes for Sov, it can be pushed to around 25% based on what you bring but most Slayers don't spend on Opportunist due to that build requiring RR80. However, with Jagged Edge flying around on all that AoE and AoE just being all around better with crit, a little bonus goes a long way.

This one change just wiped out all that gear progression/talisman theorycrafting Slayers do to get a decent crit chance while maintaining 60% or more Armor pen.
Brynnoth Goldenbeard (40/80) (IB) -- Rundin Fireheart (40/50) (RP) -- Ungrinn (40/40) (Engi)-- Bramm Bloodaxe (40/83) (Slayer) and a few Empire characters here or there, maybe even an elf.

Twick
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#103 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:49 pm

I mean first Destro cry hardcore about SW buffs, and then they can't organize and win forts because everyone is solo/roaming specs being selfish and afraid of fair fights and they whine about that and here we are.


Destro are truly the best whiners on the forums/discord, well done!
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M0rw47h
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#104 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:52 pm

Gurf wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:44 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:40 pm
Gurf wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:37 pm

You can see the Slayers in the Construct thread and ask players like Ravezaar and Toshutkidup high rr Slayers are usually running between 11-15% crit as they have to invest their renown into WS

So what you are saying is that this change will probably hit Order mdps harder than the ranged.... great
Slayers are the most overperforming class in the game, so its fine.
It affects all classes, basically Order can't crit with mdps or tanks any more :lol:
You just ignored fact, you've free +15% crit from Knights, or +20% from Knight+IB.

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JarlBerzirk
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#105 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:55 pm

Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:36 pm Guess all that destro crying worked.

Good god.
Just like how all the order crying worked to get all their buffs?

Irony :lol:

Twick
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#106 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:56 pm

M0rw47h wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:52 pm
Gurf wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:44 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:40 pm

Slayers are the most overperforming class in the game, so its fine.
It affects all classes, basically Order can't crit with mdps or tanks any more :lol:
You just ignored fact, you've free +15% crit from Knights, or +20% from Knight+IB.
You mean 10%? I don't think it is possible for a knight to have a shield and have dirty tricks on and use overpowered swing at the same time and every group wont have a 2h knight or a dirty tricks knight in each group.


You can bet on every chosen having the -25% critdebuff tactic now, you can't bet on every knight being dirty tricks AND overpowered swing. Just saying.

lyncher12
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#107 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:58 pm

CeeJay89 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:34 pm
lyncher12 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:20 pm do you people not spec futile strikes?
Are you challenged? The tactic gives MORE than Futile Strikes IV (45 renown) worth of anti crit to EVERY DESTRO PLAYER in the vicinity. And it essentially stacks with FS for those who aren't the Chosen.

For the Chosen individually, it's basically giving yourself more than 45 Renown, while simultaneously stripping near double 45 renown worth of crit from the affected player. And all you have to do is accidentally touch the Chosen. In a single tactic.
I'm well aware, thank you. My point is people are whining I oNlY hAvE 15% cRiT don't seem to realize futile strikes exists. Go back to your inner keep door and let the big boys talk.

M0rw47h
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#108 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:59 pm

Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:56 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:52 pm
Gurf wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:44 pm

It affects all classes, basically Order can't crit with mdps or tanks any more :lol:
You just ignored fact, you've free +15% crit from Knights, or +20% from Knight+IB.
You mean 10%? I don't think it is possible for a knight to have a shield and have dirty tricks on and use overpowered swing at the same time and every group wont have a 2h knight or a dirty tricks knight in each group.


You can bet on every chosen having the -25% critdebuff tactic now, you can't bet on every knight being dirty tricks AND overpowered swing. Just saying.
You need just one 2h Knight to debuff everyone with OS [its AoE and applies wound debuff as well], rest can be SnB with DT ;)

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JarlBerzirk
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#109 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:17 pm

Cant wait for Wargrim to get here and drop that hammer *grabs popcorn*

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#110 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Woaw those Chosen changes are going to be fun. Happy halloween :D

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