[SM] [Warlord] Evasion and Sword Master are not friends

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Charon
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Re: [SM] [Warlord] Evasion and Sword Master are not friends

Post#11 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:38 pm

leave warlord set how it is.
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Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
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Kyraith
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Re: [SM] [Warlord] Evasion and Sword Master are not friends

Post#12 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:01 am

Charon wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:38 pm leave warlord set how it is.
@Charon Can you elaborate on your response? Do you feel that SMs should stack Warlord the way other Tanks do? Or would you encourage SMs to avoid the full set?
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CytheX
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Re: [SM] [Warlord] Evasion and Sword Master are not friends

Post#13 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:54 pm

Kyraith wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:33 pm
CytheX wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:22 am Tbh, the real problem is wods reflected dmg that is very low and that not proc blade enchantments
Procing blade enchants would be way too overpowered. Could probably get 20-50 procs in a 20 second period and heal your party back to full with Vauls.

Also the damage is largely fluff, but is definitely not worthless. A few whirling SMs standing in the door of a fort definitely adds to the death of the melee charge.
1- bolstering enchantments have internal cd and heal very very low and thats an hot
2- blade enchantments doesn't do any dmg
3- its potent enchantments that's a tattic that does dmg on proc and already have internal cd
4- wods proc arleady does less than 100 dmg on skill parry, I'm already watching horde of destro dyn from wods xD
5- this skill is mirrored on bo, with shield so could do the same.

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anarchypark
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Re: [SM] [Warlord] Evasion and Sword Master are not friends

Post#14 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:32 pm

Kyraith wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:11 pm

“WoDS is special. Asking for too much special treatment”. Yes WoDS is special, but your implication is that other classes do not have powers to make themselves durable with 2Hs as well. Every tank class has ways to become durable while 2 Handed (except for maybe KotBS after that nerf, sorry guys!), WoDS just happens to be the swordmaster’s way. And that way happens to cost them the benefit of Evasion. As far as I know, every other 2H Tanks survival skills play nicely with Evasion. I am not asking for special treatment, just asking to be on the same playing field.

let's see what 2h tanks have for defensive. armor/tough buffs are excluded by potions

IB - parry buff with 6 mastery, heal with 14 mastery, armor tactic, some shield
knight - none ( still, passive aura is big deal )
BO - you wot?! 14 mastery, bubble with 6 mastery, wound tactic
BG - parry tactic with 8 mastery, small bubble, parry/disrupt with 10 mastery, heal with 14 mastery,
tough tactic with 4 mastery, crit debuff
Chosen - parry buff ( and aura ), anti-crit tactic

you may take 1 if dps build. few more if 2h defensive.
compare them with 0 mastery WoDS always follow with 2h, dps or defensive.

i don't think it need 50% dmg reduction synergy.
rest tanks are mediocre or require high investment.
latter still gets all but SM can invest what others spent on defense into dps or utility while
maintaining similar defense.
SM8, SW8, AM8, WL7, KoBS6, BW6, WP8, WH7, IB8, Eng5, RP5, SL6
BG8, Sorc8, DoK8, WE7, Chs8, Mg8, Ze7, Mara8, BO6, SH7, Shm6, Chop4
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ashton007
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Re: [SM] [Warlord] Evasion and Sword Master are not friends

Post#15 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:02 pm

This is your concern? Its really not the fact that warlord is pretty much useless for Sm/chosen due to their spirit damage??? it gains almost nothing from the 3 and 4 set bonus because their damage doesn't come from physical attacks. IMO they should change those set bonuses for cho and sm. pretty much the only good thing is the melee power lol!

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