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Poll: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Poll ended at Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:27 pm

Yes
23
21%
No
86
79%
Total votes: 109

Dwarni
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#21 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am

sharpblader wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:35 am Third, by letting so many rank 39s stay in T2-3 will result in meta shift where there will be premades based on these ranks only. This will recreate the same problem faced by fresh 40s for fresh 16s. In no way is it healthy. And in this rank 39 meta there will be no guarantee that DPS WP will get a group easily contrary to what you expect. What will you do if your spec is shunned even then? Ask for 100% exp reduction at rank 15?
A fresh 16 has a lot easier time than a fresh 40, the player won't die in a single stun killed from 100ft range by a bw/sorc with full sov gear. The advantage players get for having higher levels in (16-39) are more abilities, more gear pieces. So of course they will be stronger than a 16 but it is not as bad as fresh 40 vs rr80 40...

And as already said according to premades: Just make all SC like the pug one <40, problem solved...

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Sulorie
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#22 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:56 am

Dwarni wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am

And as already said according to premades: Just make all SC like the pug one <40, problem solved...
I guess queuing for pug sc only is no option?
Dying is no option.

Dwarni
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#23 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:58 am

Sulorie wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:56 am I guess queuing for pug sc only is no option?
It seems like for the guys arguing about premade being a problem it isn't...

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sharpblader
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#24 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:43 am

Dwarni wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am
sharpblader wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:35 am Third, by letting so many rank 39s stay in T2-3 will result in meta shift where there will be premades based on these ranks only. This will recreate the same problem faced by fresh 40s for fresh 16s. In no way is it healthy. And in this rank 39 meta there will be no guarantee that DPS WP will get a group easily contrary to what you expect. What will you do if your spec is shunned even then? Ask for 100% exp reduction at rank 15?
A fresh 16 has a lot easier time than a fresh 40, the player won't die in a single stun killed from 100ft range by a bw/sorc with full sov gear. The advantage players get for having higher levels in (16-39) are more abilities, more gear pieces. So of course they will be stronger than a 16 but it is not as bad as fresh 40 vs rr80 40...

And as already said according to premades: Just make all SC like the pug one <40, problem solved...
Fresh 16s also have to face rr80 in RvR without the abilities to help them out. Something which you yourself mentioned. In SCs a rank 16 will die just as fast to a rank 39 BW/Sorc in annihilator gear.

Only pug SC below cr 40? What if you want to play SC with your friends? Problem not solved.

Premades are a problem against pugs. But it's not the difference in gear which is the biggest issue but rather lack of coordination. The developers have talked about working on a matchmaking for making it more even.

Anyway the reason why everyone recommends to keep rr as high as possible while leveling is not to be stomped by higher rrs when they hit 40.

Dwarni
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#25 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:00 pm

No he won't die as fast, or do you want to say that a level 39 char does the same dps as a level 40 rr80 char with full sov set?

Pls stop spreading fake news.

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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#26 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:56 pm

This topic was dead before it started. There's never going to be an XP-off. Putting up polls to show us there's desire for it doesn't change that we have unresolvable design issues taken with this sort of change.

We've seen the arguments before. Not interested in the slightest.
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Ysaran
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#27 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:34 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:56 pm This topic was dead before it started. There's never going to be an XP-off. Putting up polls to show us there's desire for it doesn't change that we have unresolvable design issues taken with this sort of change.

We've seen the arguments before. Not interested in the slightest.
Actually I wanted to prove that majority of the playrbase don't want it too
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Dwarni
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#28 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:24 pm

And around 1/3 thinks that the game experience above 39 is so bad that they want to stay in 16-39 bracket forever xd.

Which unresolvable design issues exactly?

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Dwarni
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#29 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:31 pm

sharpblader wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:43 am Only pug SC below cr 40? What if you want to play SC with your friends? Problem not solved.

Premades are a problem against pugs. But it's not the difference in gear which is the biggest issue but rather lack of coordination. The developers have talked about working on a matchmaking for making it more even.
First you complain about shifting meta and being too many premades in 16-39 then and now you tell me: "But I want to play with my friends" So you complain about premades, but want to play in one yourself? :lol:

No a premade out of fresh 40s would never have a chance against a pug made out of rr80 with full sov gear. But maybe you try to convince yourself that you kill so many players because you are so good and not because you have a gigantic gear advantage?

Sulorie
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Re: Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

Post#30 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:00 am

Doing just fine on dok in t4 healing with anni gear and planning to swap directly to invader.

Any one before went through the same ranks towards endgame gear on any class and managed it.
Why some people think they deserve some special cuddling?
Because some years ago there was no sov gear? Levelling was slower back then and people go trashed by premades just like now, no matter the gear involved.
Additionally you have low and high ranks on both sides, so it's hit and miss anyway.
Socialize, get a group and gear differences will have a lower impact.
Dying is no option.

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