do we have a balance problem?

[Ysaran]

Nice write down. I wanna add the dual whielding classes with free 15% parry (destro: DoK, WE, Mara, Choppa - order: Slayer and WH), which means more proccing, also a DoK tactic that let covenants proc 15% more often and a shaman tactic for a damage add on the next two hits.

Thanks. I forgot that. 2h does have some kind of defense penetration bonus right? Although I imagine outside of 1v1 that isn't that useful. Melee DOK is so much better than melee WP still. Procs in general, Destro is better. Then that is amplified by dual wielding, which is further amplified by having more haste.

Dual wield parry buff is 10%, not 15%. 2h gives 10% block stikethrough.
If you really want to make The List, better you know how test things or ppl will make **** rain on your head. Good luck

[vobex16]

Now its a destro server,order permanently have AAO in EU time, if devs nothing to do with that, server will be dying imao. Order solo roam is dead, small scale is dead, also 6ppl dead tho, Order can play only RDD classes because play a meele classes its a quick way to die. So....we
already have many leaving Ordel players,i know many of them for example. PPl leave this progect or do reroll on dessie side.(And i dont talk now about OP classes like a shamans who can runaway from 5 and more ppl in half DD spec its just rofl or rSquig Herder for example.) Ppl see that and leave progect naturally.

Wait, so the server will die because Order is AAO now? What about all the times Order heavily outnumbed Destro? That was healthy? lol

Lol. Destro have AAo 1-2 month in year(like a birthday for order xD), what are you talkin about? Ill played on this server about 5 years, i know what i say.

[Rapzel]

Now its a destro server,order permanently have AAO in EU time, if devs nothing to do with that, server will be dying imao. Order solo roam is dead, small scale is dead, also 6ppl dead tho, Order can play only RDD classes because play a meele classes its a quick way to die. So....we
already have many leaving Ordel players,i know many of them for example. PPl leave this progect or do reroll on dessie side.(And i dont talk now about OP classes like a shamans who can runaway from 5 and more ppl in half DD spec its just rofl or rSquig Herder for example.) Ppl see that and leave progect naturally.

Wait, so the server will die because Order is AAO now? What about all the times Order heavily outnumbed Destro? That was healthy? lol

Lol. Destro have AAo 1-2 month in year(like a birthday for order xD), what are you talkin about? Ill played on this server about 5 years, i know what i say.

No you do not.

[CeeJay89]

Spoiler:

Now its a destro server,order permanently have AAO in EU time, if devs nothing to do with that, server will be dying imao. Order solo roam is dead, small scale is dead, also 6ppl dead tho, Order can play only RDD classes because play a meele classes its a quick way to die. So....we
already have many leaving Ordel players,i know many of them for example. PPl leave this progect or do reroll on dessie side.(And i dont talk now about OP classes like a shamans who can runaway from 5 and more ppl in half DD spec its just rofl or rSquig Herder for example.) Ppl see that and leave progect naturally.

Wait, so the server will die because Order is AAO now? What about all the times Order heavily outnumbed Destro? That was healthy? lol

Lol. Destro have AAo 1-2 month in year(like a birthday for order xD), what are you talkin about? Ill played on this server about 5 years, i know what i say.

AAO and realm population are irrelevant to realm balance anyways, unless it can be proven that realm balance is directly causing skewed population. That can't be shown here, as population still fluctuates wildly throughout the day, week to week, and month to month.

[teiloh]

Nice write down. I wanna add the dual whielding classes with free 15% parry (destro: DoK, WE, Mara, Choppa - order: Slayer and WH), which means more proccing, also a DoK tactic that let covenants proc 15% more often and a shaman tactic for a damage add on the next two hits.

Thanks. I forgot that. 2h does have some kind of defense penetration bonus right? Although I imagine outside of 1v1 that isn't that useful. Melee DOK is so much better than melee WP still. Procs in general, Destro is better. Then that is amplified by dual wielding, which is further amplified by having more haste.

Dual wield parry buff is 10%, not 15%. 2h gives 10% block stikethrough.
If you really want to make The List, better you know how test things or ppl will make **** rain on your head. Good luck

Don't worry, I know the mechanics far better than you do.

[Panodil]

If you dont play both sides all your opinions is biased.
Do city on both sides with at least wb with coms. Reason destro win more can be that you have to have a wb ready when city start and sign up instant, or you will not get in. Making wbs more competetive and organized.

And why are people just trowing out things thats false, please check your facts before posting.

[emiliorv]

If you dont play both sides all your opinions is biased.
Do city on both sides with at least wb with coms. Reason destro win more can be that you have to have a wb ready when city start and sign up instant, or you will not get in. Making wbs more competetive and organized.

And why are people just trowing out things thats false, please check your facts before posting.

you are talking to the guy arguing about BW/sorc balance and he didnt even played sorc since live...so good luck

[Everdin]

Destro classes are by far less powerfull, thats the problem for order, because the better players just choose the realm with weaker classes so the game is a little bit more challenging.

Thats why:

a) Destro players are better players (and better humans)
b) Destro has a small plus at population through the last few weeks

absolutley nothing to do with patches or classes

[Meliannia]

tone down SHs a bit, you punished shads, and glorified Shs,, tut tut
restore Pounce to what it was, or at least let it dismount people, and reduce the AP costs if no dmg
give WL a melee pull that actiually works "Come To The Cat."
give slayer a melee pull "Get To Da Ginga."

and gief a little love to Ams, IBs, WHs, shads
filter some of the love our way youve given WEs, SHs, Chosen

then we might have a game

[Sundowner]

13:2 win for destro in cities, still destro players good, order players bad issue I think