make rr70 players their own bracket

[ByzantineTime]

How do I "not let them 2 shot me"?

Be guarded, use detaunt, play with healers.

But you still die like trash when you are under geared, then what?

Anyways, I don't see what's the problem of separating normal scs like they did in ranked for rr70+ and below in the 40s, because you still face them in RVR whether you want it or not for the gear.
And SCS are mainly rr70+ destroying lower geared players, if u are below vanqs you are useless in SCS.

[Avelinna]

This always rears its ugly head. The most effective i have been in scenario is when i was bolstered in t2 and t3. Also in t4 need to form proper groups and premades it nothing to do with rank that determines how many kills you its who more organised and selecting correct targets. Solo players will never win very much in scenarios as they will hit higher geared and premades. If you are low rr then you havent managed youre renown properly when leveling doing far too much pve and other content ive rarely reached 40 without being very near or over 60 rr.

[ByzantineTime]

This always rears its ugly head. The most effective i have been in scenario is when i was bolstered in t2 and t3. Also in t4 need to form proper groups and premades it nothing to do with rank that determines how many kills you its who more organised and selecting correct targets. Solo players will never win very much in scenarios as they will hit higher geared and premades. If you are low rr then you havent managed youre renown properly when leveling doing far too much pve and other content ive rarely reached 40 without being very near or over 60 rr.

Ofc gear has something to do, even if you from a proper group in t4 you will still get smashed with crapshit gear.

[Grock]

Splitting the playerbase is rarely a good option, what the game really needs is a stat squish.

Power gap between early T4 and fully decked 80rr is immense, it makes no sense to have such a huge difference in one "tier".

But of course a some people will defend it no matter what, completely disregarding the experience of other players, especially the new ones.

[ByzantineTime]

Splitting the playerbase is rarely a good option, what the game really needs is a stat squish.

Power gap between early T4 and fully decked 80rr is immense, it makes no sense to have such a huge difference in one "tier".

But of course a some people will defend it no matter what, completely disregarding the experience of other players, especially the new ones.

Yes, voice of reason!! hello there )
sov players need a sperate scenario tier imo

[ByzantineTime]

BTW, you don't even get invited to scenario t4 groups under RR70, most of people look for rr70+ so... )) I wonder why

[Stophy22]

So this is what warhammer does, and a lot of older mmos did and still do:

Time and effort invested = power level increased.

This is healthy for the community for the following reasons:

Spoiler:

Makes it so low level players have a point to aim for and achieve.
Makes it so high level players feel fulfilled about their efforts invested and shows in combat and numbers.
Creates a competitive ceiling for the game allowing skill to take control when BiS is achieved.
Rewards all players for playing correctly and organized.
Punishes all players for playing unorganized and incorrectly.

If you truly believe you are doing everything in your ability to set yourself up for greatness:

Spoiler:

6man group (or more depending on content)
corresponding/complimenting specs
correct mechanical playstyle. (tanks punt, target gets CC'd, Moral gets dropped at same time, Focus and burst is timed in junction with others.)

then you shouldn't be surprised when you lose to players who are doing the same **** as you, have more playtime and knowledge and better gear beat you, and a better setup. A lot of people are like me who are neckbeard overlords when it comes to warhammer and have several years of this game under their belt. It's a sad truth but yes you must put in some time and effort to be to the point where you can single handedly kill a healer in full sov setup, but the cool thing about warhammer is you always have a fighting chance because you can group up and coordinate **** and if you do that, you're already better than 70% of the community because people still don't understand how to group up and play this game correct to this day and its so funny. And if you want to argue and say people in sov who are bad don't exist, I have see definitive proof of them everyday I play this game. There is a reason why warhammer has a term for the unorganized playersbase, "pug". It's because when you actually "chad up" and "neckbeard out" you get so much more **** done and the game feels infinitely different.

It's fine to be upset and its fine to want to improve and get better at the game, but to whine and say, "aww too big a gear gap to win any SC's and loot." is some baby ass loser mentality that doesn't get you very far in the game.

My advice to you is to try asking questions and getting more game knowledge and joining one of those many guilds who have veteran players to teach you a few things. Pm me in game if you are Destro side, I enjoy teaching players who are new or seeking correct playstyles because its a blessing to truly play with other people who are on the same level as you, and creating better players through spreading of knowledge is a lot more fun than just telling you vague **** like, "you're just bad." or "group up w/ other players."

[M0rw47h]

How do I "not let them 2 shot me"?

Be guarded, use detaunt, play with healers.

But you still die like trash when you are under geared, then what?

Anyways, I don't see what's the problem of separating normal scs like they did in ranked for rr70+ and below in the 40s, because you still face them in RVR whether you want it or not for the gear.
And SCS are mainly rr70+ destroying lower geared players, if u are below vanqs you are useless in SCS.

You shouldn't be "dying like trash" to begin with. Main problem would be longer que times, for both >rr70 and <rr70 and probably close to no pops for both outside of prime time and weekends.

[Detangler]

I'm pretty sure veteran players still like to make alts. I haven't found the hack yet to instantly get sov on alts, so I'm pretty sure they also have to get their **** kicked in on low gear alts, just like you.

Also, getting vanq doesn't take long, and subjugator weapons are still pretty dang good for most of your character's life. If you don't like the gear gap, maybe just orvr for a week or two until you aren't in annihilator/conq mix?

[Grock]

Veteran players also have hoards of gold and can easily provide their alts with rare gear, full set of talismans, supply of potions, and provide a head start in gearing by sending alts boots/gloves of whatever set your RR allows you to get.

Veteran players also have friends, guilds, premades and know a lot of people to play with. They also usually know how to maximize bolster, how to hunt AAO and can maximize gains during mid-tier and end up with half of a Vanq set when reaching 40rr

None of that would be true for newer or more casual players, unless they are specifically brought in and introduced by veterans.

I had a mistake to rush one of my chars and got stuck with 40/43rr and annihilator set and the character feels so weak and useless i have absolutely no desire to play it anymore.

The point is the power creep is real, the gear gap became much larger than it was when most "veterans" were leveling and gearing as new players themselves. Starting today is much more punishing and the delay before you can actually enjoy the game is longer than it ever was.

This game is about PvP, and PvP by its nature is a competition of skill. But when you have gear disparity it takes away from that and just lets worse players "win" from just having longer playtime.
And thats already on top of the fact that playtime itself comes with experience and better knowledge of the game.

Character progression is undeniably important, but it should make the game better, not worse.
After all there's always horizontal progression approach which we always had in the past.