Analyzing Order

[emiliorv]

hard weekend for orda i see.

yeah...order lobbist are working hard

All that pile of BS and cherrypicking the destro abilities you want to point (and ignoring on purpose the good order ones)...but man, when you see 4engis+2 dps AM+ random SWs+1 tank+1RP on order side...well not much to balance there...

[balvor877]

No need for cherrypicking here. It is obvious when playing the game and also on paper when comparing the classes.

Since bad group setup is often the excuse here... Go play ranked matches or watch them from streamers. I've watched a lot of them recently just to get a feeling how others are doing and you can see how the order players are struggling and when they make one little misstake someone dies. When you watch the destros on the other hand they have it rather chilled. No real pressure and they usually have the upper hand and push order back - even if it is a draw in the end. There are just too many underperforming classes on order - or overpowered on destro - depends on how you want to see it. AM and Engi are for sure at the bottom in ranked matches. AM because he dies really quick without good guards and Engi because they lack on the burst side. Ive watched our rr98 engi in one match from destro pov and he couldn't put any pressure on. If he cant who else can?

[MMXX43]

No need for cherrypicking here. It is obvious when playing the game and also on paper when comparing the classes.

Since bad group setup is often the excuse here... Go play ranked matches or watch them from streamers. I've watched a lot of them recently just to get a feeling how others are doing and you can see how the order players are struggling and when they make one little misstake someone dies. When you watch the destros on the other hand they have it rather chilled. No real pressure and they usually have the upper hand and push order back - even if it is a draw in the end. There are just too many underperforming classes on order - or overpowered on destro - depends on how you want to see it. AM and Engi are for sure at the bottom in ranked matches. AM because he dies really quick without good guards and Engi because they lack on the burst side. Ive watched our rr98 engi in one match from destro pov and he couldn't put any pressure on. If he cant who else can?

Carefull , logic and facts will tilt emiliorv ,who is definately not a destro lobbist, into uncoherent generic views on the game

[kmark101]

I won most of my weekend warfront SCs while playing my tanks and lost most of them when I played my dps chars. Go figure.

[balvor877]

I found the engi ranked I was talking about:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/942038209
around 1:06 it starts

Funniest thing is that even Gitrate commented at the beginning of it when talking about the engi he said " ... I mean ... we should win this" lol

[balvor877]

btw Gitrate also has a rr80+ sorc and a rr80+ bw. When he plays the sorcs things are dying left and right in one rotation. When he plays the bw you would think that he isn't even 40 but actually he is rr80+ and nothing dies. Tell me again that bws and sorcs are the same... it's not the case. Even if they are similar, all other classes aren't. Orcs have more life, gits have autodetaunt, and so forth... Only the forum warriors here will tell you otherwise.

Sorcs and BW videos can be found here:
https://www.twitch.tv/svarz/videos

I asked myself every day why I am still playing order. It's painful...

[Sponn]

u dont need to be a genius to understand that order is the handicapped faction.
But the majority of peoples prefer to ignore this problem and reroll destro, like evryone did on live server untill he died .

It isn't going to change.


It is the perfect scenario for people with low self esteem, you get to deny the reality of playing on the easier side (easier to form groups, better group synergy, you can easier pick a bag of randoms and get a competent group with destro character) while claiming it to be the hard side all the while. Must be awesome ya know? You get to think that the discrepancy is your skill rather than mechanics and balance.


Same reason TUP and other "xrealming guilds" somehow, someway, are on the side with the population advantage and the zerging side "after waiting 30 mins to see who is zerging and play the low population side" suuuuurrre. Cause that is all speak.


Just roll destro and call it a day, you'll have a much easier time all around. You get to claim l2p when order does bad, and you get to claim order OP when destro does bad. Destro lobbyists have this forum on lock, they are the big oil of the forums. You can't beat em, just join em.


Also whoever said WL pull is better than Mara pull, I'll have what you're smoking lol. Imagine thinking sacraficing your pet -which always dies -and buffs for a pull. Where as Mara literally get a no-risk pull. If you pull you get a cheap kill, if you dont you lose nothing lmao.


GG destro lobbyists, you guys truly are the best at this. It is the same reason you hear "zomg Order should never lose with WH and RP armor debuffs!" yet the best guilds that "xrealm" never seem to have those 2 classes in their compositions when playing Order lmao. Truly full of crap. I guess you guys are thankful there aren't true mirrors lmao.

[emiliorv]

Guys go call Gurf (and his fake accounts) => this thread deserve his posts



PS:

[balvor877]

Guys go call Gurf (and his fake accounts) => this thread deserve his posts



PS:

Are you trying to make a shi tshow out of this thread again? Too much truth in it?

[Foltestik]

I found the engi ranked I was talking about:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/942038209
around 1:06 it starts

Funniest thing is that even Gitrate commented at the beginning of it when talking about the engi he said " ... I mean ... we should win this" lol

that engi is AOE speced in ranked ...

and yes ranged dps are harder to play in ranked then melee