PLEASE turn shard drops into crest drops

[ashton007]

Totally disagree, cities are not a necessary anything if willing to work on it for few months. Bags from orvr + shards / crests from kills are good enough.

Totally disagree, you wont get full sov from a few months of bags in oRvR and shards. Your own strapline says that exact thing!


Drop more crests in RvR. Make city what it should be - a competitive 24 man event. At the moment its sweaty order bringing their full sov rr80s and destro queue dodging to try to get the gear. No real fun for anyone. Unless you are a no lifer and can make the random city times, the sov grind in this game is possibly the worst grind in MMO history!

Personally I find grinding invader to be the worst grind in any mmo possible ON DESTRO, the way that destro almost never takes/wins forts or succeeds to defend them makes the grind a nightmare, sov is easy on destro.

[Vegetaplays]

Totally disagree, cities are not a necessary anything if willing to work on it for few months. Bags from orvr + shards / crests from kills are good enough.

Totally disagree, you wont get full sov from a few months of bags in oRvR and shards. Your own strapline says that exact thing!

You can get like 10 royals a day just from RVR depending on how the zones go during your playtime. without city you can get full sov in like a month or two if you put in consecutive hours.

[Hannesnewb]

The only grind I personally find annoying is the invader grind. You get your beastlord/vanq combo on most classes which takes a decent time and then you work towards (what you would imagine) the next upgrade only to realize that invader is dogshit on most classes.

Grinding a useless set before being abled to farm the endgame set is what makes the sovereign grind annoying to me. Also it would be nice if you could actually equip a sovereign item when you can buy it. Right now you have to wait for 4-5 pieces at least for it to be worth it. They could make it so you equip a sov item and still get to keep the vanq bonus e.g. (higher tier items count towards lower tier set bonuses) so that you at least notice some sort of gear progression.

[Elemint]

with odd time cities being a necessary evil.

Totally disagree, cities are not a necessary anything if willing to work on it for few months. Bags from orvr + shards / crests from kills are good enough.

A few months. For an alt. In a dead game. We have different reasons for playing, grinding alts is essential to game enjoyment for me...

Personally I find grinding invader to be the worst grind in any mmo possible ON DESTRO, the way that destro almost never takes/wins forts or succeeds to defend them makes the grind a nightmare, sov is easy on destro.

The suggestion is for invader shards too

[Sulorie]

Personally I find grinding invader to be the worst grind in any mmo possible ON DESTRO, the way that destro almost never takes/wins forts or succeeds to defend them makes the grind a nightmare, sov is easy on destro.

When you get easy sov with city wins, you get easy invader with city wins as well.

[Kpi]

The game was more exciting when you only can obtain royals in city... the royals in RVR ruin the game

[Sulorie]

with odd time cities being a necessary evil.

Totally disagree, cities are not a necessary anything if willing to work on it for few months. Bags from orvr + shards / crests from kills are good enough.

A few months. For an alt. In a dead game. We have different reasons for playing, grinding alts is essential to game enjoyment for me...

Personally I find grinding invader to be the worst grind in any mmo possible ON DESTRO, the way that destro almost never takes/wins forts or succeeds to defend them makes the grind a nightmare, sov is easy on destro.

The suggestion is for invader shards too

They would have to increase the set cost, because you get shards from rvr too fast, unless you play only in warbands and 23 others compete for the roll.

[Helwer]

We need some standards for that discussion: Can we pls agree that:

1. Invader and Sov Grind is the same thing as you don`t get invaders only from Forts or royals only from cities. Invader should even be faster cause you get them from everywhere incl. Forts but no royals. Order wins more Forts, Destro more cities (maybe) but you always get same rewards from bags related to your progress.

2. You will gear comparable fast/slow if there are shards or medals cause you will not change your playstyle due to that change. Nobody joining pug/org wbs will change to solo cause of that and solo/small scale roamers will get shards or medals, in my eyes negligible considering the grind of hundreds of medals.

From my own exp. i can agree to the hard sov grind via invader - even without jewelry and weapons. For new player with RL/job/family deterrend. SC Weapons and gear is also hard but better planable and predictable than RvR. There can be hours without progress and days/weeks without cities but 1* IC.

We could think about making city pop on a prime time hour when it is 5* for few days. So you can plan better, maybe get organized etc. We can think about new mechanics like in scenarios or lotd. We need more Instances with less people so most will be able to join even without 24 wb. Matchmaking for 6v6, 12v12, 18v18 and better separate organized and pugs. But at least give chance to join in! Nothing is more annoying than waiting for 1* so minimum 3 crests in an hour and not can join cause there is no ini going.

LotD will accentuate problems in rvr cause it will spread more player over more maps with new items etc. Soon maybe even city weapons making it even more hopeless for pug casual players. Pls dont understand me wrong, i almost have my first sov-toon but understand everyone quitting that grind.

[mynban]

my friend list is pretty much inactive now, but when they were still playing there were quite a few who would reroll an alt once they start inv grind.

Worst offender is how unfun the activity required to get them, but since they are happening at arbitrary times seldom enough you can not afford just skip them. And most of the time you cant even get into city even after all the prep and finding an organized group.

[Toshutkidup]

Totally disagree, cities are not a necessary anything if willing to work on it for few months. Bags from orvr + shards / crests from kills are good enough.

Totally disagree, you wont get full sov from a few months of bags in oRvR and shards. Your own strapline says that exact thing!


Drop more crests in RvR. Make city what it should be - a competitive 24 man event. At the moment its sweaty order bringing their full sov rr80s and destro queue dodging to try to get the gear. No real fun for anyone. Unless you are a no lifer and can make the random city times, the sov grind in this game is possibly the worst grind in MMO history!

I average 7-10 royals a day without including shards. thats a minimum 50 a week and I havent done a single city since April 2020. Im not full SoV as Im Wl/SoV mix and have 50 Gold bags just sitting in my backpack + 700 Royal crests i have just sitting there.. so disagree all you want