life is too expensive on ror

[gats6699]

I am a SALYER (RR 78) who stopped playing in 2018, who is in vanquish and who is coming back to ror.
I studied the rates to have the opti stuff: 5 sovereign + 4 triumphant + unlocked the shards invider:
- 13952 token

question : at 8 tokens for SC, in how many hours, week, month will we be able to afford that?

Don't you think there is a big imbalance between those who could easily equip themselves with city siege or rvr and those who are starting now?
How to make it fairer?

Maybe cancel the ward ?
removing the wards would be a first step, why should I buy equipment that I would never use or that I do not want to use?

greetings

[CyunUnderis]

- 13952 token
question : at 8 tokens for SC, in how many hours, week, month will we be able to afford that?

About 290 hours I think. Joining oRvR or play with a guild will be more beneficial.

Don't you think there is a big imbalance between those who could easily equip themselves with city siege or rvr and those who are starting now?
How to make it fairer?

As already mentioned in many post, Vanquisher is a really decent set. The PvE has also been simplified, so everyone can get access to Sentinel ring and Bloodlord weapon in less then one week and HV can be a good set for some classes.

Maybe cancel the ward ?
removing the wards would be a first step, why should I buy equipment that I would never use or that I do not want to use?

I did not calculate the cost, but why take Invaders if you want to use Triumphant ? Invader and Triumphant should share the same ward.

Also, given the speed of acquisition of crests and the PvE improvement, I don't feel having to acquire the previous ward as a punishment

[gats6699]

Joining oRvR or play with a guild will be more beneficial.

i already do it !

why take Invaders if you want to use Triumphant ?

invader is cheaper than Triumphant , so I will buy the Triumphant pieces I need, but I also have to buy invader pieces which I don't need to unlock the ward.

[rrrutsss]

I am a SALYER (RR 78) who stopped playing in 2018, who is in vanquish and who is coming back to ror.
I studied the rates to have the opti stuff: 5 sovereign + 4 triumphant + unlocked the shards invider:
- 13952 token

question : at 8 tokens for SC, in how many hours, week, month will we be able to afford that?

Don't you think there is a big imbalance between those who could easily equip themselves with city siege or rvr and those who are starting now?
How to make it fairer?

Maybe cancel the ward ?
removing the wards would be a first step, why should I buy equipment that I would never use or that I do not want to use?

greetings

Its very quick now.
Was alot slower before the update.
One of my chars was whit vanq gear and 72 rr( got 72rr before invader was introduced and didint play after that)
And now im full sov whit play time few hours a day

[rejndjer]

this game is too grindy, and every normal person, with rl responsibilities agrees on this point. the ones that don't agree are people who can play this game for hours every day. they want it to be even more grindy because that's the only way they'll ever be better than you.

close thread.

[Sulorie]

Joining oRvR or play with a guild will be more beneficial.

i already do it !

why take Invaders if you want to use Triumphant ?

invader is cheaper than Triumphant , so I will buy the Triumphant pieces I need, but I also have to buy invader pieces which I don't need to unlock the ward.

You miss to add the crests you get for kills. While you sit in SC queue you can do rvr, because there are no SC quest anymore, you don't have to wait in city to redeem those rewards.
Dead enemies in ever drop up to 9 crests on a kill.
As slayer get a group and farm kills.

[zulnam]

the game was always grindy. That's what MMOs do. Difference is it's very visible now what the grind is.

The new system is better, objectively. It might require a few tweaks here and there, but if you think the old system of gate keeping end-game currency only until you got past a certain point was better, well...

With the new system every gear currency you get matters. Gone are the days of getting a full set like Duelist or Annihilator, and then doing RvR with almost zero rewards, due to still being locked to Soldier or Officer Medallions. This means you can start saving for your next set so much earlier than before!

As for the actual values, and prices, that doesn't look too bad either. I've had the personal experience of gaining 500 crests in a day, when i had the good fortune to be able to play more.

A certain someone in my guild who managed to play for an entire week from dusk till dawn managed to get to invader after barely dinging 40. In a week. That comes to 84 hours; assuming he only played for 12 hours a day.

Also, with the new system in place, people can be more incentivised to run PvE dungeons (you know, the other content) and gear from there. 30 crests too much for a subjugator weapon? Get mudcap from Gunbad! just as good, super easy to get. Run Gunbad. Do it. DO IT NOW!

It's also easier to get invader/sov now. Since you get more currency drops from everywhere for them, not just from forts and cities. You could, technically, play scenarios exclusively and get full sov (although it's much better at the moment to gear from RvR).

As a slayer RR78 in vanq you should really focus on getting to invader, not what the price for your BiS gear is.

[uanaka]

I don't think this is a matter of grinding it in the first place, but more so about the imbalance between the crests you can get in a RVR siege, fort, city vs scenarios. In the span of a single keep take and zone flip, you could get close to 75+ crests in an hour if things go smoothly. That's simply not possible with doing scenarios, even when you consider kills, which is a moot point cause that gets distributed in a group anyways.

PVE dungeons are great, I think it would be a nice QOL change to have the PVE dungeons also count for wards too. Redeye = Merc/Anni, Sentinel = Conq, Blood Lord = Vanq. Especially because as a new player, it can be a bit much to have to grind out conq, if by the time you hit 40, you might already be rr50 and ready to use vanq. But if you consider PVE dungeon wards, a player could be grinding out redeye from 32+, run through city dungeons at 40, and get to vanq a bit faster that way.

It's nice that you can start earning crests for future sets, but it doesn't matter if you're losing all those crests buying sets you don't even use. I think that needs to be a focus of ongoing balancing though.

Anyone that says HV is a decent side set is delusional. Even PVE dungeons all have had their influences reduced so it's faster to complete and get the rewards yet HV still takes 7 runs? That's complete bullcrap. HV is already pretty new content, but it seems they're pretty content for it to be dead content.

[Cultist]

the game was always grindy. That's what MMOs do. [...]

On a private server for a half-dead game makes no sense. You should be able to gear up and be competitive in a month of gameplay, not a year of heavy grinding.

It makes no sense unless they want to retain their playerbase as long as possible (I bet they will not deny this last sentence) which leads to other questions I'm not going to ask

[Littleone]

I don't understand all that fuss about gear to be honest. Why trying to make players suffer to reach where the majority of players are already at? I like the idea of beating my opponents with my play style and use of abilities instead of gear gap. But a lot of people seem to be happy about keeping the gear gap dunno why. I find ward system completely pointless in that sense.