Detangler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:36 pm
Order was mega zerging and dominating fights, but seemed no one of significance wanted to take BOs. I had fun taking 14 ppl and running around capping BOs and getting into small scale fights. Would be curious what the population totals were.
Im not sure if they devs have the tools or willingness to share that info about numbers attending on each side, but I was doing my 2nd ever LOTD on Order (needed to farm the golden scarap set on BW eventually) And it was quite a culture shock seeing after been doing and running a warband over on destro, and then seeing the order approach.
First of all the opening on the map, Order region chat seemed to be way more active with an assigned leader commanding. Destro never really had that level of rallying based on the LOTD ive seen on destro. And as a result anyone with a sort of organization on order rallyed at Mid at the start, while i noticed Order didnt even capture their own "homeland" BOs down south before the first 10-15mins already letting destro have a point advantage 2:1 from ticking supplychains, despite order winning in kills by sending everyone to middle to skirmish.
An other opservation based on watching an Order streamer in pugbands was that there seemed to be a big portion of the order attendees in open warbands (2-3) and these were all over the place with no leader directing or rallying them. Leading to half of the order pupulation being pure pugs and a constant swingdoor of people dieing, running, fleeing, leaving.
When order got far enough behind it naturally turned into "**** it lets just fight" which is understandable but it further more just let the pugs to fend for themselves and the map turning red apart from where the organized blue-ball was fighting.
From the perspective of playing lotd and leading a guildwarband on destro, we did the exact same as Detangler. We focused on the Homeland BO control and reported when we were heading there so others didnt have to waste manpower to clean up. Then skirmish mid to establish double 3 mid BO control to build an advantage and then push into enemy homeland outskirts to pull enemy manpower out of the equation to help our side by either capping offensively, fighting even numbers or wiping being outnumbered but pulling manpower away.
While playing on destro and now two times on order, ive seen alot of smaller groups sticking to themselves and looking for feasting on the outskirts of the skirmishes and not focusing on pulling their weight in objectives.
Ive seen some order guide-book passed around and while thats nice, i do disagree with that whole approach of swarming mid and blobbing up early as destro have proven several times that even when order blobs and goes for kills they will just go outskirts and win on captures, arguebly how the map is "supposed" to be played. Not sure if population imballance can be blamed, but the allocation of troops and too big of a portion being none 8-8-8 pugbands could play a big part of order's winrate imo.