LOTD balance anyone?

[Ninjagon]

The picture talks for itself... (pop unbalance...)

[noobwarrior]

I would have posted that too if I were on the losing side^^

[Sulorie]

The picture talks for itself... (pop unbalance...)

4 order against countless destro, true.

[Ninjagon]

Its an example, not a proof picture. You can say, what you want. But those that were there, they know ...

[lumpi33]

It looks like that both sides were full with 201 vs 202 players.

Many Order players probably left before end.

Destro HoB guild dominated with 221 kills.

Best Order killer was a rr56 SW with most likely a cannon at the end.

Total kills: 2277
Order kills: 867
Destro kills: 1410

Order attackers by career:
ARCHMAGE: 23
RUNE_PRIEST: 20
WARRIOR_PRIEST: 20
KNIGHT: 19
SHADOW_WARRIOR: 17
ENGINEER: 17
SLAYER: 16
SWORDMASTER: 15
BRIGHT_WIZARD: 14
WHITE_LION: 14
WITCH_HUNTER: 14
IRONBREAKER: 12
Total attacking characters: 201

Destro attackers by career:
SHAMAN: 31
SORCERER: 26
CHOSEN: 21
BLACK_ORC: 17
CHOPPA: 17
SQUIG_HERDER: 16
WITCH_ELF: 16
ZEALOT: 16
DISCIPLE: 14
BLACKGUARD: 12
MARAUDER: 11
MAGUS: 5
Total attacking characters: 202

Order kills by character:
Slingshot - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr56: 50
Ninjab - WHITE_LION 40/rr81: 40
Bombling - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr91: 36
Rolgrom - SLAYER 40/rr91: 34
Wats - WHITE_LION 40/rr69: 33
Fornax - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr85: 30
Shinehigh - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr79: 27
Ainslys - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr83: 26
Aneton - SLAYER 40/rr78: 23
Deadmaus - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr70: 21
Kajtarn - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr86: 21
Thorbaddin - SLAYER 40/rr84: 20
Bruttmurk - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr81: 19
Yxzen - WHITE_LION 40/rr82: 17
Aheron - SLAYER 40/rr77: 16
Justdelete - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr85: 16
Bowtie - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr78: 16
Nisha - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr82: 15
Phature - SLAYER 40/rr86: 14
Onidzukaa - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr65: 14
Vutekk - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr69: 13
Leoniah - WHITE_LION 40/rr71: 13
Sosa - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr73: 12
Runmasta - RUNE_PRIEST 40/rr87: 12
Adreni - ARCHMAGE 40/rr88: 12
Robinthehoodie - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr78: 12
Mordaxe - SLAYER 40/rr81: 11
Alexander - WHITE_LION 40/rr81: 11
Shaheena - ARCHMAGE 40/rr83: 10
Odalia - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr87: 10
Bromkyl - SLAYER 40/rr71: 9
Zaaaaap - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr80: 9
Seppblater - SLAYER 40/rr63: 9
Brazziiian - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr83: 8
Pyzan - SLAYER 40/rr65: 8
Stouni - SLAYER 40/rr82: 8
Massiveattack - ENGINEER 40/rr72: 7
Thepresident - SLAYER 40/rr69: 7
Keolion - WHITE_LION 40/rr83: 7
Amut - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr69: 7
Tasir - WHITE_LION 40/rr67: 7
Stromnar - WHITE_LION 40/rr65: 6
Laywh - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr83: 6
Pisyaedka - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr70: 6
Pragmatic - ARCHMAGE 40/rr74: 6
Allea - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr76: 6
Cogworth - ENGINEER 40/rr88: 5
Leshrac - WHITE_LION 40/rr82: 5
Archbeam - ARCHMAGE 40/rr83: 5
Epix - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr81: 5
Ziemof - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr76: 5
Syndalla - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr82: 5
Luminu - ARCHMAGE 40/rr51: 4
Blaydz - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr81: 4
Engitron - ENGINEER 40/rr68: 4
Targibomb - ENGINEER 40/rr58: 4
Highweaver - ARCHMAGE 40/rr82: 4
Thorukk - ENGINEER 40/rr70: 4
Karisanna - SWORDMASTER 40/rr88: 4
Daje - ENGINEER 40/rr72: 4
Airline - WHITE_LION 40/rr81: 4
Holyfire - ARCHMAGE 40/rr83: 4
Raspjutin - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr77: 3
Croucamp - SWORDMASTER 40/rr85: 3
Serathena - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr61: 3
Flameus - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr82: 3
Kannaii - WARRIOR_PRIEST 40/rr75: 3
Hon - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr84: 3
Wuxina - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr55: 3
Vinner - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr77: 3
Nixademon - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr68: 3
Kanjiro - WHITE_LION 40/rr84: 3
Snabbigautzi - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr73: 3
Lou - WHITE_LION 40/rr62: 2
Giktun - ENGINEER 40/rr76: 2
Tiggy - KNIGHT 40/rr59: 2
Goldfire - SLAYER 40/rr81: 2
Rrgold - RUNE_PRIEST 40/rr80: 2
Podpivchensky - ENGINEER 40/rr66: 2
Trippieheat - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr65: 2
Larelaya - WHITE_LION 40/rr68: 2
Fyflya - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr49: 2
Ylve - SWORDMASTER 40/rr52: 2
Belahriel - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr42: 2
Golestandts - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr91: 2
Mohendis - ENGINEER 40/rr85: 1
Darloga - RUNE_PRIEST 40/rr83: 1
Isist - WARRIOR_PRIEST 40/rr69: 1
Brutmaster - SWORDMASTER 40/rr63: 1
Muzzle - ENGINEER 40/rr80: 1
Tumaslegrand - KNIGHT 40/rr58: 1
Autonomy - SWORDMASTER 40/rr59: 1
Toroc - SWORDMASTER 40/rr82: 1
Nareen - KNIGHT 40/rr83: 1
Borbok - ENGINEER 40/rr74: 1
Lifar - RUNE_PRIEST 40/rr86: 1
Bludnbeer - IRONBREAKER 40/rr78: 1
Elenorien - SHADOW_WARRIOR 40/rr50: 1
Foxington - KNIGHT 40/rr86: 1
Thulgor - ENGINEER 40/rr69: 1
Bohatmazedar - BRIGHT_WIZARD 40/rr60: 1
Bubbinator - RUNE_PRIEST 40/rr77: 1
Araryniie - WITCH_HUNTER 40/rr38: 1
Drafi - ENGINEER 40/rr84: 1
Deepdownlow - ARCHMAGE 40/rr61: 1

Destro kills by character:
Leorwyn - SORCERER 40/rr81: 70
Badrukk - CHOPPA 40/rr85: 70
Garamar - MARAUDER 40/rr85: 65
Firousse - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr85: 47
Chilly - SORCERER 40/rr81: 43
Rahrah - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr83: 38
Class - CHOPPA 40/rr83: 35
Chophard - CHOPPA 40/rr66: 35
Treyway - WITCH_ELF 40/rr83: 34
Polemos - CHOPPA 40/rr80: 33
Dontkissmebaby - CHOPPA 40/rr83: 32
Bazelini - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr89: 27
Hocus - SORCERER 40/rr64: 27
Vuorinorri - MARAUDER 40/rr82: 25
Djark - SORCERER 40/rr94: 23
Teefz - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr91: 23
Elabora - SORCERER 40/rr80: 22
Manabuns - SORCERER 40/rr46: 22
Necrowizard - MAGUS 40/rr75: 22
Nash - CHOPPA 40/rr83: 22
Reldin - MARAUDER 40/rr60: 20
Easycredit - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr84: 19
Gobbafet - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr83: 19
Kaiju - MARAUDER 40/rr67: 19
Chimpp - CHOPPA 40/rr83: 18
Ashiron - SORCERER 40/rr62: 18
Tsiftis - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr67: 18
Istabthings - WITCH_ELF 40/rr82: 18
Lovewts - MAGUS 40/rr80: 16
Meetwad - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr82: 16
Badooo - MARAUDER 40/rr50: 15
Anjanolian - WITCH_ELF 40/rr94: 15
Haebzula - SORCERER 40/rr82: 13
Weezard - SORCERER 40/rr62: 12
Sebol - SORCERER 40/rr71: 11
Griselbrand - MARAUDER 40/rr58: 11
Zhazou - SORCERER 40/rr83: 11
Shogun - BLACKGUARD 40/rr80: 10
Cnapmakyc - SORCERER 40/rr59: 10
Dashoota - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr78: 10
Invizeepl - CHOPPA 40/rr63: 10
Olekko - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr73: 10
Fettnacken - BLACK_ORC 40/rr77: 10
Rukzukzahnluk - CHOPPA 40/rr81: 10
Feelschoppaman - CHOPPA 40/rr66: 10
Enomara - MARAUDER 40/rr69: 10
Zernoklyi - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr65: 10
Kanath - CHOPPA 40/rr81: 9
Xaltha - SORCERER 40/rr84: 9
Quentell - SORCERER 40/rr68: 9
Rolemartyr - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr60: 9
Elsk - WITCH_ELF 40/rr55: 9
Aiklight - MARAUDER 40/rr73: 9
Torak - MARAUDER 40/rr61: 8
Dramduk - BLACK_ORC 40/rr80: 8
Penta - BLACKGUARD 40/rr75: 8
Trugus - SHAMAN 40/rr80: 8
Krimskull - CHOPPA 40/rr82: 8
Sovietika - WITCH_ELF 40/rr79: 8
Baddymcbad - CHOPPA 40/rr75: 7
Nyamasteh - WITCH_ELF 40/rr47: 7
Krill - SORCERER 40/rr82: 7
Lasealba - SORCERER 40/rr53: 7
Soulthirst - MAGUS 40/rr53: 7
Ekdikisiss - DISCIPLE 40/rr58: 7
Nepomuk - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr64: 7
Donnawetta - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr57: 7
Zuzunos - CHOPPA 40/rr73: 6
Grimfufu - SHAMAN 40/rr65: 6
Snyp - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr69: 6
Skjoldur - CHOSEN 40/rr55: 6
Rejetta - WITCH_ELF 40/rr83: 5
Muchomorek - BLACK_ORC 40/rr81: 5
Whitemamba - SHAMAN 40/rr59: 5
Funeral - BLACKGUARD 40/rr72: 5
Aelynthi - SORCERER 40/rr75: 5
Gorkx - BLACK_ORC 40/rr83: 5
Horizon - SORCERER 40/rr66: 4
Kactus - WITCH_ELF 40/rr67: 4
Aerylin - MAGUS 40/rr85: 4
Butsh - MAGUS 40/rr68: 4
Kallig - DISCIPLE 40/rr82: 4
Wutaz - SORCERER 40/rr77: 4
Latro - MARAUDER 40/rr76: 4
Rumbling - BLACK_ORC 40/rr91: 3
Apani - WITCH_ELF 40/rr69: 3
Cathartes - BLACKGUARD 40/rr82: 3
Goffkar - BLACK_ORC 40/rr74: 3
Chtulu - CHOSEN 40/rr72: 3
Ilmare - WITCH_ELF 40/rr60: 3
Suuwp - SORCERER 40/rr81: 3
Goregor - BLACK_ORC 40/rr73: 3
Trocolere - WITCH_ELF 40/rr73: 3
Echis - SORCERER 40/rr55: 3
Fluf - BLACK_ORC 40/rr92: 3
Xhate - BLACKGUARD 40/rr77: 3
Lucilda - WITCH_ELF 40/rr81: 3
Takeit - SHAMAN 40/rr76: 3
Zikkila - MARAUDER 40/rr70: 3
Ellwynd - WITCH_ELF 40/rr50: 2
Shipnex - CHOPPA 40/rr60: 2
Ratman - CHOSEN 40/rr74: 2
Greenash - BLACK_ORC 40/rr79: 2
Ronty - CHOSEN 40/rr72: 2
Mauxfaux - SORCERER 40/rr47: 2
Garther - CHOSEN 40/rr82: 2
Gogo - WITCH_ELF 40/rr82: 2
Wolzog - CHOPPA 40/rr59: 2
Glist - SHAMAN 40/rr77: 2
Stortsettmoste - CHOPPA 40/rr75: 2
Gergy - SQUIG_HERDER 40/rr55: 2
Schattenbiss - SORCERER 40/rr82: 2
Hiin - DISCIPLE 40/rr61: 1
Calroh - BLACKGUARD 40/rr62: 1
Gutrotz - BLACK_ORC 40/rr57: 1
Booz - CHOSEN 40/rr74: 1
Ukmog - BLACK_ORC 40/rr82: 1
Sanquiniusss - CHOSEN 40/rr71: 1
Rinchi - SORCERER 40/rr42: 1
Ocara - BLACKGUARD 40/rr85: 1
Eluned - SORCERER 40/rr51: 1
Meeza - SHAMAN 40/rr42: 1
Relife - SHAMAN 40/rr92: 1
Zaaeofhnzne - WITCH_ELF 40/rr52: 1
Dualdaggers - WITCH_ELF 40/rr62: 1
Cosmine - SORCERER 40/rr86: 1
Jiroh - SHAMAN 40/rr82: 1

Order kills by guild:
Bene Tleilax: 118
Gimle: 79
Vae Victis Granarc: 50
Pax Mortis II: 49
SMASH: 45
NO_GUILD: 40
VODKA: 40
Pugchamp: 36
Ethics: 36
HELLenes: 31
Beaver: 26
Familjen: 25
Wildly Inappropriate: 24
GIGN: 22
Salt Factory: 21
Phenix: 20
CNTK: 17
Nordlicht: 16
Morituri: 15
Zaxxed: 13
China Tower: 12
Twierdza: 12
Red Shadows: 12
Falkenrath: 10
HardLine: 10
Formosa: 9
Satas Hakx: 9
Mother Russia: 8
Order Biased: 6
FUREUR: 6
Exile: 6
The Forces of Order: 5
Forgotten: 5
Pocketsize: 5
Sapphica Sororitas: 4
Italian Job: 4
Seventh Legion: 3
Third World Inc: 3
WitchHunters Anon: 3
nouvelle age: 2
null: 2
Milites Ultionis: 2
Lunatic: 2
Ninjas with crocs: 1
Luna Marchita: 1
Shadows of Divinity: 1
Bitterstone Thunderers: 1

Destro kills by guild:
Hand of Blood: 221
NO_GUILD: 104
Legion Of Perkele: 104
Thank god am pretty: 58
Sovereign: 58
Daydream: 50
CORPSE STOMPRS: 50
BLACK HORROR: 49
Nugos: 47
TROUDZ: 47
Renaissance: 44
KAZ: 39
Guerra: 39
The Misfits: 39
Unfortunate Timing: 34
Brutality: 24
The Blood Moon: 24
Strife: 23
Exodus: 23
Dark Panda: 22
RigorMortis: 22
Mortus: 19
Corruption: 19
Wu Tang Clan: 19
Mourne: 17
Pink Snails: 16
Omen Sinistrum: 15
Omega: 13
Gobbo Club: 13
BALTIKA: 13
Sodium Refinery: 13
Schattenkrieger: 11
Sigmar Digmar: 11
Svoboda: 10
Parasites: 10
Da Freebootaz: 10
V I K I N G S: 9
Amnesia: 8
TALENTFREI: 7
Uncivilised Guardians: 7
Legion of Doom: 7
Royal Legio: 5
Crematorium: 5
FMJ: 5
Klan Athel: 4
Minds of Insanity: 3
Far East: 3
Da fat squigs: 3
In plain sight: 2
Tzeentch and Chong: 2
Gummy Bears of Doom: 2
Clan Kass Kranes: 2
Spetznobz: 2
Bitterbone Thunderthighs: 1
The Damned: 1
NOCTURNE: 1
Twisted Destiny: 1

[lumpi33]

Im a bit surprised that Destro brought so many Sorcs this time and their best killer was also a sorc with 70 kills. Is there something fishy going on with them? That one sorc had more than twice the kills than all engineers combined (17 engineers, 33 kills)

[Detangler]

Its an example, not a proof picture. You can say, what you want. But those that were there, they know ...

I like how the rvr campaign is absolutely dominated week in and week out by Order rolling fort after fort to the point where they take near empty forts cause everyone logs one side, yet the second LotD discussion comes into play suddenly its "Destro is overpopulated!!"

What game are you even playing where you don't see this? Order took two forts this morning with ease in the short time I was playing. Where's your complaints about that?

[Garamore]

That NO_GUILD on destro is OP

[wonshot]

201 attackers vs 202. Surely some of the order ones were re-fillers after someone left after either getting killed, losing hope, or giving up on sticking it out. But this kinda kills the outnumbered argument abit. While this was going on there was two order warbands on orvr (Dustmaker happily commenting ingame in T4 about how order is losing while being in orvr this week, and taking an empty fort last round of lotd )

Once again, it honestly just seemed like Destro came with a bunch of "stand on our own" groups. Plenty of small/6man groups going outskirts capping BOs. While Order rallying two warbands on Discord and drains everything that seems to be close to organized into a blob and forfeits the rest of the map completly.

Just look at the opening 15mins again. Both sides capping homelands four wc starting BOs. Order for once capping south Lib+Tomb but then sits on a random mountain top and rally for 5minuts while destro caps all 3 middle BOs. From there on with a 3(!) zone-kill total lead from Destro after 12th minut mark Order is already falling behind losing middle, allowing smallmans to enter their homelands, and doing nothing to reclaim it apart from 3warband blob running around capping a single objective overcommited, easily avoidable by Destro smallmans capping and skirmishing outskirts with a handful of zerg v zerg fights. At that point the map is already red on south WC BOs, order pugs are leaving and the fillers come in and leave too and its technically desited after 30minuts of which 15 were yellow-cap phase.

[Garamore]

1 wb of destro kited order blob back to destro wc whilst the rest of destro capped all the bos. By that point destro were 500 points in front.